On 09/10/2013 02:50 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 26.08.13 01:22, Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org) wrote:
On 08/24/2013 03:53 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
There is a very clear standard that distinguishes globally and locally
administered addresses.
While you would possibly to buy
On 11/14/12 18:37, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org [2012.11.14.0412 +0100]:
As Gentoo guys and some major kernel people are protesting about the
insanity Kay and Lennart have done to udev,
I cannot help but notice that Kay and Lennart were both
On 11/14/12 19:53, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
What are the problems they try to address?
Removal of features, broken build system, etc.
Just the little things that make things exciting (and we prefer things
to be boring so we can sleep at night)
Plus an unpredictable upstream that can't be trusted
On 11/14/12 22:04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:49:07PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
But anyway, we're getting tired of their ADHD-driven changes just to
change things
TBH, I'm getting tired of people who are constantly shooting against
them because
On 09/02/12 20:43, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
Hi!
Just for the record (and I might be wrong with this information,
because I don't have it from a official Gentoo source):
I heard from a Gentoo dev that they will switch from OpenRC to
systemd,
No.
and find the possibility very funny that Gentoo
On 09/01/12 04:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 08:28:27PM +0300, Serge wrote:
It's often someone says something similar about many ITPs. I believe noone
should say things like that, unless he wants to scare everybody away and
have Debian forgotten and dead. Saying
On 05/09/12 21:37, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Philipp Kern
You will not, however, get a conffile update prompt when the system
file changes (e.g. to update your own local copy to incorporate the
fix).
This is something I'm pondering if we should handle in either a systemd
trigger or a tool
On 05/09/12 21:58, Fernando Lemos wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 05/09/12 21:37, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Philipp Kern
You will not, however, get a conffile update prompt when the system
file changes (e.g. to update your own local
On 04/26/12 00:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:52:59PM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
I'd like to ask you to evaluate OpenRC as candidate to replace the old
have-always-been-there sysvinit/insserv init scripts in Debian.
While as others have mentioned that ideally a more dynamic
On 04/26/12 01:49, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Apr 25, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
in the last months there have been many discussions about init systems,
especially systemd. The current state seems to make no one really happy
Not true. systemd and upstart do not make /everybody/ happy
On 04/27/12 03:08, Ben Hutchings wrote:
[snip]
Don't assume dynamic device detection is only about personal machines
or USB. It's useful in a much wider context.
Agreed it is *useful* in many cases.
But I also agree that it is not *required* in *all* cases.
I believe Debian still
On 04/27/12 15:54, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 22:29 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
Yes of course, because event-driven init systems have *always* been
*only* about mounting USB devices.
Then explain the _real_ reasons for having an event driven boot system!
BECAUSE
On 04/30/12 02:09, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 03:59:03PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:33:16PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Isn't mounting filesystems, which can depend on the network, part of
the boot process?
Yes, but how do you check if the network
On 05/02/12 04:55, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 27/04/12 19:33, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Martin Wuertele
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2012-04-27 09:53]:
Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 22:29 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
Yes of course, because event-driven init systems have
On 05/08/12 00:04, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 07, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
Means that services can be started (and stopped?) in response to events
such as hardware discovery, incoming network connections, the status of
other services, and so on. (With dependencies still
On 05/03/12 23:16, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Donnerstag, 3. Mai 2012, Guillem Jover wrote:
RPM has now support for ~ in latest git. http://rpm.org/ticket/56
oh shiny! thanks for that pointer! anybody know by chance whether gentoo is
jumping on this too?
Not this decade - we're ahead of
On 05/04/12 00:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Patrick Lauer
Not this decade - we're ahead of the pack, as usual ;)
So you don't support for instance 1.0~git20120503, then? (the git
snapshot from today of what will become 1.0)
What a weird idea.
1.0_pre20120503 maybe, but why package
On 05/04/12 01:58, David Weinehall wrote:
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 08:54:11AM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 05/03/12 02:16, Michael Biebl wrote:
On 02.05.2012 19:05, Martin Wuertele wrote:
I don't think this is a better example. Actually I think this is an
example where udev/mdev could launch
On 05/03/12 02:16, Michael Biebl wrote:
On 02.05.2012 19:05, Martin Wuertele wrote:
I don't think this is a better example. Actually I think this is an
example where udev/mdev could launch/stop bluetoothd.
Long running daemons should *not* be started by udev. udev is *not* a
service manager.
On 04/27/12 18:50, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2012-04-27 09:53]:
Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 22:29 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
Yes of course, because event-driven init systems have *always* been
*only* about mounting USB devices.
Then explain the _real_
On 04/27/12 03:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:08:01PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I believe Debian still supports running locally compiled kernels which
do not depend on udev, and that some setups do not
On 04/27/12 08:02, Russ Allbery wrote:
Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com writes:
Say you want to mount a network disk during boot. This depend on the
network being configured. This in turn might depend on a DHCP reply
from a DHCP server, and to send the DHCP request the network card need
if switching is possible /
makes sense) you'll get full support from us in migrating init scripts
and figuring out all the nontrivial changes. Just visit us on IRC (
#openrc on irc.freenode.net), send us a mail ( ope...@gentoo.org ) or
meet us for a beer or two.
Thanks for your consideration,
Patrick Lauer
a nice day,
Patrick Lauer
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