needing sponsor for blt: am I at that stage?

2013-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Hello, Its me again. Once again, I'm throwing myself on your mercy because although I like programming and packaging, I am having a horrible time finding my way through your web pages to adopt a package and keep it up to date. So far I have succeeded in declaring the ITP on the blt packages and

big improvement with Experimental kernel 3.7.3

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
With the Wheezy kernel, I've experienced serious problems in WiFi support because of the iwlwifi driver for Intel Centrino Ultimate 6300. For quite a while, I've been running kernels from the Debian experimental server, various little things would break from time-to-time. The wireless networking h

Bug#664092: ITP: blt -- the BLT extension library for Tcl/Tk - run-time package

2013-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Package: wnpp Followup-For: Bug #664092 Owner: Paul Johnson Will upload to mentors.debian.net soon--packaging is done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arch

multiarch dependency hell. build amd64, can't install without also building i386

2013-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
This is a multiarch issue I had not considered before. Have you seen it? I never wanted to be a "cross compiler", I really only want to build amd64. But I have some i386 libraries for a particular program (acroread). I've just learned that, if I build amd64 packages, I can't install them for test

Re: vertical quotes invisible in Evince (Wheezy Beta 4)

2013-01-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > The Evince invisible single upright quotation mark problem still > exists! I just wasted about 20 minutes trying to read a document about > a computer program and couldn't figure it out because the quotes were > invisible. &

vertical quotes invisible in Evince (Wheezy Beta 4)

2013-01-20 Thread Paul Johnson
The Evince invisible single upright quotation mark problem still exists! I just wasted about 20 minutes trying to read a document about a computer program and couldn't figure it out because the quotes were invisible. I tried to report this against Evince in Debian, but the page that reportbug took

hypothesis about the trouble I had with libc6 and multilib: extraneous libc6-amd64

2013-01-18 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm reporting this here because I expect other users might run into this problem with the mulitlib migration and Debian developers might need to know about it. Last week I posted here about a Wheezy problem in the transition to multilib. I had added the i386 arch and upgraded with apt-get. After t

Wheezy testing versus Wheezy release repositories: confused on how to get source code

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
I installed Wheezy beta 4 from CD and was surprised that compiz window manager was removed. Compiz is the best thing about Linux, that's a shame. I tracked down some explanations, don't want to start a flame war about that decision. But, even though Debian is not including compiz, I still love it

Re: problematic shlibs entry in substvars file

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > [Whoops, forgot to send on list] > > On 15/01/2013 15:48, Paul Johnson wrote: >> To create the shlibs dependency, I think dpkg-shlibdeps is reading >> files in /var/lib/dpkg/info. I can't find any "2.7" a

problematic shlibs entry in substvars file

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
I suspect this is another multiarch growing pains problem. I'm on Debian Wheezy with multiarch enabled. I'm trying to understand a packaging problem. I'm getting shlibs inserted in the debian/package.substvars file and I can't understand why. For example, lets rebuild the blt package. $ apt-get s

Re: Rationale for gcc version in wheezy

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Markus Raab wrote: > Hi Group! > > I would like to ask why most arch have 4:4.6.3-8 instead of 4:4.7.2-1[0]. > Is it because: > - Some (many) packages do not compile? > - Some (many) packages produce crashes? > - There was simply not enough time? If this is the re

Re: multilib followup: caution about remnant shared library files

2013-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:19:38AM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: >> However, some packages don't remove their own files (or, at least, >> they don't get it done for me). In the packaging, there a

multilib followup: caution about remnant shared library files

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Here's a cautionary heads up on the transition from ordinary to multilib Debian. I run Debian Wheezy amd64. Some 32 bit applications are installed, and somehow I came to a point where ia32libs wanted to update and transition me to a multilib setup. I'm still trying to figure out if that happened b

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Johnson
at about 85%, and servers around 10%. My web stats put Windows at around 70%, presumably desktops. If the 95% figure was ever true, those days are ancient history now. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpaB0fVwKmo4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Johnson
products. You can already start to see the change being made: Windows Live OneCare is replacing Windows on WalMart shelves, for example. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpspzLoE8zsi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Next Debian Release

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 11:02, Allen wrote: > To whom it may concern, I was wondering if you have schedule or roadmap for > the next available release version of Debian. Google finds it easily. http://www.debian.org/releases/ -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Tal

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
appen with warning, so why should security only happen with warning or by accident? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpOC7Ci6vBBk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 14:15, Linas Žvirblis wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> See, if you visit a bazaar, I bet a helpful guy with a Russian accent > >> can sell you a perfectly valid passport for less than $50. Several > >> years ago, a friend of mine actuall

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 14:26, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:57:18PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 May 2006 13:02, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > See, if you visit a bazaar, I bet a helpful guy with a Russian accent > > > can sell you a p

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 13:02, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:20:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Even the guy at 7-Eleven has the big book of north american ID cards with > > pictures and descriptions of what makes a real one for when they > > encount

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
've never seen before. Surely Debian can do as well as the guy selling cigarettes and beer at the 7-Eleven when it comes to verification... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber p

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:49, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The vote at champoeg was when the Oregon Territory voted to become > > Canadian. We're on the south side of the border exclusively due to > > the threat of mil

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:12, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>>>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 > &g

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
a wrote: > >>>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: > > [snip] > > > That's precisely the issue. The standards of "reasonable" are > > different for minors than they are for 'normal' people. > > Minors are *normal*. They are n

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:52, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada > > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US > > customs decided that it was

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>>> Given t

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:41, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be > >> pestered at customs > >> "OR ELSE". > > >

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:28, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>>> Given time, one can pay

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 > >> > >> Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doing away with ballot > &

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 10:19, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would be more inclined to do that to the people who signed his key > > based on the Transnational Republic ID. > > So, who are those people? Is Manoj one of th

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:41, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> You can get a passport. > > > > Yeah, if I really want to give a country I don't really have much of a

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
t happens, it does apply to foreign nationals who are > under the jurisdiction of the United States. That's not what the courts have said during my lifetime, IIRC... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward ht

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
ting machines to be opened separately in some other room. And if you still don't like it, you don't have to live here, everybody else already beat you to the punch. Oregon's full. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpukUZBWuxR7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:34, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to > >> be pestered at customs

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
eys of someone with an ID I don't recognize for the same reason I wouldn't sell alcohol to people with IDs I don't recognize when I worked for the Zoo: It's my reputation (and in the case of alcohol, my legal liability) on the line. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP &

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at > >> least two photo ID's issue

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
llegal search to go home!" -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpdW4ew8ZcdC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
son why Cuba does the extra page on request. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpi13qAzz2yi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 26 May 2006 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at > >> least two photo ID's issued by the government). > &

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 26 May 2006 15:20, Ron Johnson wrote: > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: > > [snip] > > > [0] As long as he doesn't go

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
new Oregon or California ones due to the lack of security features. OTOH, I live in a region with some of the highest meth consumption in the world, and I have had my identity stolen once. Damn you, social security administration... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
of how much you trust someone to thoroughly check identities before signing keys. OTOH, I haven't made it to a keysigning party since high school so I'm a little rusty on that part. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to m

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Please use reply-to-list instead of reply-to-all, I do read debian-devel. On Friday 26 May 2006 14:01, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Given time, one can pay more atten

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
rchased ID's > are acceptable in this community? That is a fact not in evidence with supplied information. As I gather, Martin was carrying a passport, his German ID and the quasi-fake Transnational Republic ID. If I had been presented with his TR ID, I would probably laugh and say, &qu

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
ard, you have to surrender it to get a driver's license. You're only legally allowed one ID. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpWNLJZwxsTn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
dead fingers or I surrender it at the BC Ministry of Transportation and Highways (by that time, the backwater country that thinks Oregon and California shouldn't have an international boundary between them can kiss my ass). -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROT

Re: ip access pemit

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 12:06, Murilo Bernardes wrote: > i've got a email server and i'd like to permit access only to a few ip > numbers. can anyone help with this? Please don't ask to ask a question, just ask the question. What MTA do you use? What is the desired

Re: Installation is FANTASTIC!!!

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 01:37, Barry Drake wrote: > It is now far easier to install Debian than Windows XP - yes - really. And > I'm not a regular Linux user. And to all those who disagreed with me on this point about two years ago: I told you so... -- Paul Johnson Email a

Re: Уникальные семинары!

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Johnson
ISP that employs challenge-response, you are doing business with spammers. No loss to the net. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Уникальные семинары!

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 23 March 2006 02:41, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Wednesday 22 March 2006 09:45, Henning Makholm wrote: > >> Listmasters have been trying to > >> identify the responsible subscriber with no luck >

Re: Уникальные семинары!

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 09:45, Henning Makholm wrote: > Listmasters have been trying to > identify the responsible subscriber with no luck Why not just 500 all posts from sites known to use challenge-response? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: We want to honestly apoligize to the whole Debian Community

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Johnson
ble. Sounds great, so long as that "you" is self-referencing and doesn't expect the rest of the group to take such veiled demands seriously, especially after your forgery stunt... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's ti

Re: Уникальные семинары!

2006-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21:08, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:41:52 -0800, Hex Star wrote: > > ah...russian spam...translated to english: > > [snip] > > Why bother? Gotta maximize the propagation of spam as much as possible. It's important, af

Re: I am using GPG and am still learning.

2006-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 27 February 2006 11:12, Kirchner Ron - rkirch wrote: > I revoked a key, but need to use this key again, is that possible, as I was > sent a new key but can not seem to No way to do that. Once you revoke a key, it's done. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Googl

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
rything, pretends there is cooperation where there is none, and merely duplicates the effort of the debian-desktop project, and contributes nothing to the community or society, what's stopping us from officially discouraging Ubuntu's existence? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP &

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
from Ubuntu users and developers alike that this is Planet Ubuntu. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got Jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpFMwVfN7DAX.pgp Description: PGP signature