Re: Publicly available mbox archives of debian mailing lists + Bug#161440

2005-04-27 Thread Peter Samuelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > It would be really handy to have archives of the debian mailing lists > available as mbox archives. The correct solution, until someone gets around to exporting the mboxes, is to talk/grumble/whine about wanting the archive for some specific month and list, where developers ca

Re: Bug#306694: ITP: qt-x11-opensource -- Qt 4 cross-platform C++ application framework

2005-04-27 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brian Nelson] > * Package name: qt-x11-opensource > Version : 4.0 beta 2 > Upstream Author : Trolltech AS Is there some reason for the "-opensource" in the name? That's a pretty redundant designation for something in Debian main, don't you think? I'd probably go with "qt4" or "

Re: Bug#306268: ITP: connect -- Establish socket connection using SOCKS4 or 5 and HTTP tunnel.

2005-04-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Philippe COVAL] > * Package name: connect > Version : 1.93 That's a terrible package name. What will the GNUSTEP people do if they ever want to package something that manages SMB client mounts? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Is there a serious NPTL problem with sarge?

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[W. Borgert] > - Is it relevant, whether Python is compiled on a system with 2.6 > or 2.4 kernel? If so, how can I find out on which kernel the > Debian package has been built? Might or might not be relevant - depends on whether the python build scripts attempt to detect the kernel capabilit

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-04-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Branden Robinson] > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > twofish > > Go ahead and file a bug for this one, please Sorry, no can do - twofish isn't actually uncontroversially buggy. It handles bullet lists in the de facto standard way, which I didn't like, but I have since been persuad

Re: watch files and weird version numbers

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Zak B. Elep] > In a related problem, I'm packaging the latest version of gtklp at > 1.0c. My earlier package is 1.0 but using version 1.0rel (I was > stupid, but I think I should have slapped upstream earlier for using > a very inadequate versioning scheme). I'd go with 1.0rel+1.0c. Fix it for

Re: dpatch and patching debian/rules

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[martin f krafft] > Parts of debian/rules are Ubuntu-specific (e.g. mv README.Debian > README.Ubuntu) and we would love to have that removed. The DISTRIB thing can be implemented quite easily without include files or anything. Just say: DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNT

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jeroen van Wolffelaar] > It seems like this list has a lot of false positives, take for example > php-mail-mime: > > | Description: PHP PEAR module for creating and decoding MIME messages > | Provides classes to deal with creation and manipulation of mime messages: > | . > | * mime.php: Crea

Re: Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Samuelson] > I'd like to file a mass bug for these, but it's on the order of 583 > binary packages in 430 source packages, so I obviously want to get > some feedback first. Jeroen van Wolffelaar pointed out to me that 430 source packages is a bit much for a mass bug, es

Bug#302138: incorrect Description line wrapping with bullet lists

2005-03-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
Package: linda Version: 0.3.10 Severity: wishlist ObListCC: search for 'mass bug' below. Lots of packages have a Description field that includes a bullet list. There is no good way to do these, unfortunately, but lots of wrong ways. In particular, you'll cause incorrect line wrapping in dselect

Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-03-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Darren Salt] > Back-porting to sarge using tools in sarge? That doesn't sound so daunting. Anyone doing serious backporting will need to start by backporting a few development tools, which is already true from woody -> sarge - viz. debhelper 4. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: NPTL and static linking

2005-03-12 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jason Lunz] > I just figured out a way to do this for the ssh binary. Maybe this would > work for you? As others have pointed out, there is -Wl,-Bstatic and -Wl,-Bdynamic - but even absent those, you can just refer to the .a files directly if you wish. So instead of -Lopenbsd-compat/ -lopenbsd-

Re: NPTL and static linking

2005-03-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Blunt Jackson] > I am familiar with the nss issue, although that's not really relevant > to this question. The nss issue, and the related question in the FAQ > is that when statically linking to libc, there are still dynamic > loads required -- but libc handles this for the application. > (Presum

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nikita V. Youshchenko] > Maybe it's better just not to provide oss drivers for chips supported > by alsa? AFAIK OSS will be removed from kernel soon... It may or may not be removed soon - I note that it isn't listed in Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt in kernel 2.6.11 yet. Anyway, two

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390 ... [or have strict arch: control? ]

2005-02-28 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] > Which also avoids that packages will be unavailable on every new > architecture debian introduces because the maintainer has to adjust > the Architecture: line. I suppose it'd be nice to be able to use !foo in the Architecture: line for cases where something is known not

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Pierre Habouzit] > > As far as mirror bandwidth goes (including end user bandwidth *from* > > the mirrors), that's a problem for rsync/zsync to solve. > > 1- binary backages do not have the same name (so rsync/apt-get are lost) It's still a problem for rsync/zsync to solve. I didn't mean to sa

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Pierre Habouzit] > I mean that you have no way to say for huge source packages : you > only need to build this , this, this and this pacakge. since the > changes I've made won't affect the others. As far as mirror bandwidth goes (including end user bandwidth *from* the mirrors), that's a problem

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] > Not from what I know of dist-cc. You just need dist-cc, and nothing > else. dist-cc just offloads the number-crunching, so it uses no data > from the non-master node. AFAIK anyway (which is NOT much on dist-cc > matters). Right. distcc runs the C preprocessor o

Re: Let's remove mips, mipsel, s390, ... (Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space])

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Langasek] > The four most common porting problems for software are endianness > (differs between i386/amd64 and powerpc), word size (differs between > i386/powerpc and amd64), char signedness (differs between i386/amd64 > and powerpc), and use of non-PIC code in shared libs (which is a > pr

Re: what is /.udev for ?

2005-02-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Tollef Fog Heen] > Assume makes an ass of u an' me. Why do people keep circulating this saying? It makes no sense. Normally, assuming only ever has the power to make an ass of the person who did the assuming, i.e. "me", not "u and me". And even then, it's not like you could get very far in lif

Re: binaries for different architectures in debian packages

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] > Ok, so the solution is to go for a `double' way: > - Package debian packages the debian way, ignoring other arch/os > combinations. > - Build some `non-standard' debian packages which have to be provided in > a different way (our web server or something else) which put bin

Re: binaries for different architectures in debian packages

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] > The last question I have (for now): > - How can I install binaries for non-Debian architectures-os > combinations (win32, i386-solaris, ...) USING the pacakge management > system? > Is there a way at all -- or is there no way for this? The real problem is *building* th

Re: /sbin/halt always changes its access rights

2005-01-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Otto Wyss] > I've set the s attrtibute of halt since on my desktop any user may > stop the system. But about each second month or so it's set back to > it's original rights probably by a package upgrade. Is there a way to > keep the access rights or any better way to handle these kind of > proble

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brian May] > Whatever happened to the idea of even numbered kernels being > "stable"? You didn't get the memo? That's an obsolete standard - the 2.6.x line of development has been much more aggressive than past stable series, as far as allowed tree changes, and last July or so (I think it was),

Re: Is debhelper build-essential?

2005-01-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Ken Bloom] > I'm confused. One making backports from sid to woody should backport > a package in such a way that it is buildable with woody's > build-essential. Yes. Same will be true backporting to sarge. But if sarge build-essential were to be updated to contain debhelper (>= 4), that would

Re: Compiling libc4 on Debian unstable

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christoph Berg] > [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host archive.debian.org > archive.debian.org has address 208.185.25.38 > [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $host 208.185.25.38 > 38.25.185.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer raff.debian.org. google has no trouble finding mirrors for it, though. Peter signatu

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
> >even in cases where it *is* documented, this is not by any > >stretch of the imagination a typical use case. [Peter 'p2' De Schrijver] > That's not true. Firmware can created by anyone and requires only > documentation and a compiler/linker for the target processor. In many > cases the

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Miguel Gea Milvaques] > I don't undestand why software loading files (as we are talking) must > be in contrib. An example: xpdf, if you have not a pdf file you could > not use it, only it gave us a blank page. You could read a lot of > different files, a free pdf files or a non-free pdf files, an

Re: Always run dpkg --dry-run -i before running dpkg -i!

2005-01-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[William Ballard] > I like my transactions to have ACID consistency and dpkg does not > have this by design - apt does. "You keep using that word. I do no think it means what you think it means." Let's see how ACID-compliant apt install runs are Atomicity - no. Your install does not, fo

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roger Leigh] > I've been using Debian with UTF-8 only locales for over 12 months > now. I now consider it fine for general use, with respect to > terminal and application support. Unlike a couple of years ago, most > things work perfectly. Some apps like 'screen' do not just configure themselv

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Matthew Garrett] > Defining the character set as utf-8 means that any non-unicode > capable application is going to have issues, yes. Postulate an app that is ignorant of character sets - we'll call it "aptitude". Fixing it to make it accept utf-8 and spit out the correct encoding for its LC_CT

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thaddeus H. Black] > Would Peter permit me a mild dissent? I prefer Latin-1. Dissents are fine. (: The reason to go with UTF-8 is for consistency. Tools that wish to render text onto the screen ought to be able to depend on knowing the encoding that text is in. See below for why I (and many

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Marco d'Itri] > > Would people support a mass bug at minor severity? > Make it normal. Given that Policy recommends debian/changelog to be utf-8, coupled with the observation (which I had not thought of) that various tools may require a maintainer's name in debian/control and debian/changelog to

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steinar H. Gunderson] > Transliterating is somewhat of a kludge (and I think in most cases > UTF-8 is a much better solution); OTOH I'd rapidly get confused in > the list of Japanese maintainers if their names weren't > transliterated. I think it's a valid choice for a maintainer who natively sp

Re: charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Samuelson] > I suggest that the affected source packages[3] be run through the > command 'iconv -f ORIGINAL_CHARSET -t utf-8' as soon as convenient. Ehhh, I see I have already ruined my credibility by pasting the wrong source package list. The real list is much shorter.

charsets in debian/control

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
We seem to be moving to a de facto standard of UTF-8 for non-ASCII characters in debian/control files. This is not specified in Policy [1], but for hopefully obvious reasons, consistency is a Good Thing, and UTF-8 seems to be the best solution for this sort of thing. In my sid control files, I s

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[cas] > on every non-linux machine i have to use, the first thing i do is > download and compile all the GNU tools including tar. i then change > the PATH setting to include /usr/local/bin/gnu at the start. I used to do that, but then I got burned by 'df'. Debugging that one involved wading thr

Re: Bug#66084: lvm: 0.8i -> 0.8final migration

2000-08-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > however, this does still leave a big problem: how to handle the > upgrade from 0.8i to 0.8final. If you are currently using LVM 0.8i, > then upgrade to 0.8final, LVM will stop working unless you also > recompile your kernel. Aye, there's the rub. It's a design pr

Re: A few changes

1999-09-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
it "has been either closed or set to severity: fixed" since . -- Peter Samuelson

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