Re: When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root

2002-08-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
Still, breaking bind's access to root name servers is particularly troublesome because it may tend to break all net access. It may be worthwhile to remove db.root from the list of configuration files. Especially, because this list isn't something anyone should need to change. I beg to

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
These packages don't conflict; they merely provide the same service. There is no reason that these three packages cannot coexist on the same system. Any namespace overlap can be solved by alternatives or renaming, as such things are normally rectified. Debian policy should proscribe

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
Okay, then solve the problem of which one should actually work on the standard port? You can't use update-alternatives if the software is Well, I would prefer that things didn't start listening for connections without asking first, but I can't imagine that that's a popular suggestion.

Re: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http - close(-1)

1999-01-29 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Russell Coker wrote: What is a close(-1) supposed to do? The http program does one and I'm curious as to why... IIRC, close(-1) closes all open file handles. I'm not certain exactly wher this is documented though.

Re: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http - close(-1)

1999-01-29 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 29 Jan 1999, Stephen Zander wrote: Scott == Scott K Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Russell Coker wrote: What is a close(-1) supposed to do? The http program does one and I'm curious as to why... Scott IIRC, close(-1) closes all open file

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Florian La Roche wrote: There are reasons why all distributions stayed with /var/spool/mail. Even Debian who also thinks a lot about making things sane/clean has stayed with /var/spool/mail. Note that Debian has not yet moved from FSSTND to FHS for the most part, and

Re: freetype1 is gone from slink, imagemagick still depends on it

1998-10-15 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:39:05PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:14:20PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: I'm a little confused. freetype2-dev conflicts with freetype1 (= 1.0.0.1998-03-22-1) yet freetype1 is nowhere

Re: apt-0.0.16 and libc6-2.0.7r2

1998-06-25 Thread Scott K. Ellis
. Now the first thing that apt wants to do when you run it is to commit suicide by removing itself. Is there a workaround? Yes, you encountered a bug in apt 0.0.16 (an error in the sorting code. Get apt 0.0.17 from http://master.debian.org/~doogie/ -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote: Still one problem. /wg-15-locale/s//wg15-locale/ damn. i thought i got that one this morning. i wont

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-28

1998-01-03 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:47:22PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perlmagick-1.15-2 imagemagick-3.9.0-1 libhdf4g-dev-4.0.2-4 (Depends on libhdf4) It's a strange dependency, but libhdf4 actually depends

Re: libnfslock (or dftp?) install dangerous...

1997-12-31 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 30 Dec 1997, Mark W. Eichin wrote: I was just upgrading a system from [hamm a few weeks old] to [hamm today] using, for the first time, dftp (instead of a mirror and manual dpkg -BORGiE runs.) I selected libnfslock, it created /etc/ld.so.preload, and since then any attempt to run a

Re: how to handel version numbers for upstreap updates.

1997-12-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Radu Duta wrote: I've got a package version 1.5.0-1 that I've already packaged. There is a new upstream release 1.5.1. Should the new package be named 1.5.1-1 or 1.5.1-2 or is it up to my discretion. Since it's an entirely new source tree it would make sense to use

Re: problem with libmime-perl_3.204-1.deb in hamm

1997-12-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Tim Ferrell wrote: I am in the process of upgrading my system to run current with hamm and had a problem with the libmime-perl pkg relating to the libwww-perl pkg that prevented both pkgs from configuring. First libwww-perl requires libmime-base64-perl which does not

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: 'Martin Mitchell wrote:' If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption as a minor issue, I would not, especially if I expected that staying with

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Installing libc5 from hamm forces you to abandon your old libc5 development system since it CONFLICTS (correctly) with libc5-dev. Not everyone is going that route yet. True, so they can stay with bo for now.

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: Would it possible to make a (not altdev): debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/libc5-dev_5.4.33-7.deb that conflicts with libc6-dev? And would this solve everyones problem? I'm just wondering if the libc5 in this directory doesn't

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Welton wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:44:51PM +1100, Martin Mitchell wrote: If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption as a minor issue, I would not,

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Joe Emenaker wrote: On 12 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REASONS WHY UTMP CORRUPTION IS SO EVIL THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RUN A FEW LIBC6 PROGRAMS ON BO GO THROUGH HELL. Say

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: The problem is that maybe *you* know what packages those are, but most users expect to be able to upgrade without major system services breaking if dpkg/dselect doesn't indicate that there's a problem. Your approach would cause silent failures. Imagine

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:19:29PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote: libc6: Conflicts: (libc55.4.33-6) (Necessary due to utmp issue -- Hell, someone upgrading from a CD with stock 1.3.1 will be able to corrupt utmp in the current scheme anyway!)

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:06:07AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Would it? What if they would also upgrade their libc5-dev to the same version as the libc5 in hamm? Would that help? In the past these two

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:19:29PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote: libc6: Conflicts: (libc55.4.33-6) (Necessary due to utmp issue -- Hell, someone upgrading

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: The problem is that libc5-dev doesn't exist in hamm. Hamm has libc5-altdev instead. This forces people who want to compile libc5 stuff into the altgcc/lib*-altdev mode, requiring the mass removal

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debian/bo/binary-i386/base/libc5_5.4.33-6.deb conflicts with libc6 making it IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade!! I had to downgrade to libc5_5.4.33-3.deb from a LSL CD (thank goodness this bug is not shipped on CDs!!)

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) from hamm, then you may install libc6. The solution isn't quite so simple. The libc5 from hamm DEPENDS ON libc6

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: The reason for my bug is to get the broken package off the ftp site. Before anyone else breaks their system. Guy, if everyone believes that 5.4.33-7 in hamm solves the problem, could you replace libc5_5.4.33-6.deb with libc5_5.4.33-7.deb? I won't

Re: be careful with Replaces, please

1997-11-30 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Yann Dirson wrote: Greg Stark writes: We've got be be a little more careful with the Replaces header. I just installed the libc6 version of comerr, and dpkg helpfully deinstalled e2fsprogs. That's perfectly normal if you previously had e2fsprogs = 1.10-6,

RE: Use of suidmanager

1997-06-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
may not want that arangement. - -- Scott K. Ellis |In order to live freely and happily, http://www.gate.net/~storm/| you must sacrifice boredom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not always an easy sacrifice

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
else, such as info/texinfo, I don't want HTML as well. - -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis | your belief in injustice and tragedy. http://www.gate.net/~storm/ | What the caterpillar calls the end of the world

Re: Info or HTML: which should be the default, which in a separate package?

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
. ++ || Your friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
strong, it is annoying to beat dselect into submission when you really don't want a package. ++ || Your friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your

Re: Debian-Policy Manual

1997-06-21 Thread Scott K. Ellis
particular editor here. I personally use joe for brief editing jobs and emacs for the big stuff, but I can understand the expectations of someone familiar with unix typing vipw or such. ++ | Scott K. Ellis

Re: Policy wrt mail lockfile (section 4.3)

1997-06-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
? You create fun deadlocks when one program does it lockfile/flock and the other does it flock/lockfile. ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure

Re: Re^2: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
are purely coincidental. Any resemblance | | |between the above and my own views is| | Scott K. Ellis | non-deterministic. The question of the existence | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is | | | left

Re: Larry Daffner, svgalib1 libc6

1997-06-19 Thread Scott K. Ellis
terminal, or the view out my | | | window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance | | |between the above and my own views is| | Scott K. Ellis | non-deterministic. The question of the existence | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of views

Re: Obsolete package CGI-modules (hamm)

1997-06-16 Thread Scott K. Ellis
the capitilization :) ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-14 Thread Scott K. Ellis
. ++ || Your friends will know you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years.| ||-- Illusions

Re: reboot function

1997-06-04 Thread Scott K. Ellis
you better in the | | Scott K. Ellis | first minute you meet than your acquaintances | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | will know you in a thousand years.| ||-- Illusions

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Scott K. Ellis
. The solution is: dpkg -i dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb dpkg --clear-available ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours

Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
is. Does perl look at the site-perl directory before looking in its normal librarys? ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours

Re: Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Scott K. Ellis
. ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours. | ||-- Illusions

Bug#4007: identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured

1996-08-02 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Argue for your limitations Systems Administrator, Anexis Inc. and sure enough, Business Web Presence Hosting they're yours. http://www.anexis.com/ -- Illusions