Re: An ITP looks like forgotten

2010-05-11 Thread Tobi
Am 11.05.2010 10:41, schrieb Cleto Martin Angelina: The bug #539568 is an ITP for a C++ sockets library. The ITP was created on Augus'09. I'm interested in this package too, and I wrote an email to the bug author and I've received that his email does not exists. In this cases, what should be

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: the special cases are needed? debian/rules is a specific interface for Debian building, why are you using that same interface for other purposes? It's just because we believe this is the easiest to use and easiest to maintain way to do this: Build a standard vdr-plugin-*

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig schrieb: I think Manoj already explained quite well why policy is that specific about a single line. And I explaind why the policy is over specific in this case :-) The modified shebang line didn't had any drawback in the past and wouldn't have any drawback in the future.

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-30 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava schrieb: 1. SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel make -f debian/rules build 2. make -f debian/rules SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel build 3. SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel ./debian/rules build 4. ./debian/rules SPECIAL_VDR_SUFFIX=devel build Giving you differing results is confusing enough to

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig wrote: Adhering to a standard actually decreases complexity. What may seem elegant at first makes it a lot harder for other people to step in. For example, the VDR-solution IMHO doesn't decrease complexity, it merely hides it. Yes, it indeed hides some complexity. But it

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig schrieb: In an earlier post you mentioned a pbuilder build process: If that is what you are using, why not go for pbuilder hooks? This would surely be possible, but then the users compiling their own packages will complain :-) @all: Thanks for your technical suggestions!

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Philipp Kern wrote: I didn't say that, right? Please don't lay words into my mouth. I said here to specify the concrete case of policy describing the first n bytes of debian/rules despite the interface being completely in accordance with the normal procedures (i.e. being a Makefile and even

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: If I ahve the magic variables set, and call it as % make -f ./debian/rules, I get the standard behaviour. If I turn around and call it as % ./debian/rules, I get totally different behaviour. True but if you DON'T set the magic variable, you get

debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Hello! Debian Policy 4.9 says about debian/rules: It must start with the line #!/usr/bin/make -f, so that it can be invoked by saying its name rather than invoking make explicitly. In the VDR and VDR plugin packages, we use something like this: /bin/sh debian/make-special-vdr.sh

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Julien Cristau schrieb: asks for a password. Sorry, wrong link: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-vdr-dvb/vdr/vdr/trunk/debian/make-special-vdr.sh also nothing in what you said explains why you can't do what you want using a makefile. Because make-special-vdr.sh needs to modify

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Fabian Greffrath wrote: Why not so it the other way round, i.e. start two different scripts (or the same script with different parameters) from a debian/rules Makefile depending on the environment variable? Might be possible, but it would require major changes to debian/rules, but our goal is

Re: debian/rules make -f restriction

2009-10-28 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: This is what the make directive 'include' is all about. Conditionally, include fileA or fileB. Each file is all uncontaminated now. This is not a technical shortcoming of using Makefiles. You're right. What we do might be possible from within the

Re: building packages/ chroot/ pbuilder/...

2009-01-12 Thread Tobi
Grammostola Rosea wrote: How should I do it? I've seen a lot of different tools/ways on the web... please give me some clear information and good references. Check out cowbuilder. The follwing references should get you going: http://wiki.debian.org/cowbuilder

Re: Debian -- the best

2008-12-19 Thread Tobi
Let me express my appreciation and gratitude for Debian. Reading debian-devel during the last weeks, I had the same feeling that some positive counterpart to the recent discussions is needed to somehow keep the balance. I intended to post the top 5 reasons, why I love Debian, but you were faster