Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced

On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:39:24AM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > Hello, > > the feature as in the subject is nice and makes me feel safe, but > sometimes it hits on the laptop, when booting on batteries, with people > watching. There actually is a feature in e2fsck to double the amount of mounts be

Re: Debian in Sanger (Re: update on binary upload restrictions)

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:38:46AM +, Tim Cutts wrote: > > On 1 Feb 2007, at 1:00 am, Charles Plessy wrote: > > >(Sorry for the noise, I reply on the list since Sanger's mail server > >thinks I am a spammer. > > Does it? > > >I am very interested to hear that Sanger is using Debian on > >

Re: buildd stuff

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:38:17PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:29:33 +0100, Wouter Verhelst > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It's not that it's sacred; it's that w-b uses a Berkeley DB with a > >database-level lock for every access (in

Re: buildd stuff

On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 11:40:00PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 11:04:12AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > > > Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >> One first step would be to keep the current build daemons maintainers >

Re: buildd stuff

On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 11:04:12AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > There is no wb-amd64 nor wb-mipsel. I don't know why. Because for actual w-b access from buildd hosts, those groups are no longer used. Instead, there's a buildd_$arch user for every architecture on buildd.d.o, to which access is re

Re: buildd stuff

On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:35:04AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > One first step would be to keep the current build daemons maintainers > > (ie the person who signs the upload), and give and access to some > > porters to the wanna-build databa

Re: update on binary upload restrictions

On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 10:42:25AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > > > >> If we do go to source-only uploads, could this problem be avoided by > >> having arm and other slow arches wait until at lea

Re: If I play piano while my computer starts up, /dev/dsp disappears !

Package: udev Severity: normal On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 06:02:10PM -0500, Dumitrescu, Eduard wrote: > My computer is connected to my piano through a usb-midi cable. If > I use my piano while the computer starts up, whether /dev/dsp is > renamed to /dev/dsp1, Is that a problem? If so, how? Soft

buildd stuff (was: Re: update on binary upload restrictions)

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:23:35AM +, James Troup wrote: > unilaterally make the decision that they are or are not OK. If it's > the consensus of the release managers and the architecture porting > team that they want to use emulated buildds and/or cross compiling, I > absolutely will not stop

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 02:21:17PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Why do you assume it? The usability processes in GNOME imply, on the > contrary, that there is a good way to achieve every use case. Thank you for this insight. There is a Perl motto, and it says "TIMTOWTDI": There Is More Than O

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 10:45:07PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: > > AFAICS, post-processing of log messages would be the most reliable > > method to give admins localized logs while also making it feasible > > for upstreams to support user requests. Any p

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 09:20:19AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I would assume 10 days is enough to "automatically" build all that > > is in experimental... > > Some packages can not be autobuilt due to complex dependencies across > unstable and experi

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 02:13:37PM +, Ross Burton wrote: > If you have any particular pet features that have been removed in GNOME > and you can make a valid case for their re-inclusion, then file a bug. I'm afraid the GNOME bugzilla can't handle that amount of bugs. -- Home is where you ha

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 04:42:21PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > On 01/16/07 20:22, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Thus their goal is to help win market share, > > That's an important goal. How about we don't care about the crap that is "market share", but only about the things that really matter, suc

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 07:16:12AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > > I do not like to see Debian doing the same thing... > > > You mean doing what's needed to be by default accessible to people who > don't speak English if they did choose to install in another language > than English? > > Coul

Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates

On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 06:32:10PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 12:50:27AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > breaking that would break software that expects this particular field to > > be in that particular syntax. > > That's not complete

Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 01:16:24PM +0100, Amaya wrote: > Nicolas Boullis wrote: > > What about gender? How is it specified? > > Currently it is a drop down that allows you to choose: > - unspecified > - male > - female > > Which in my opinion reflects sex and not gender. > > I would rather have

Re: Explications needed...

On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:24:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > I think you're confusing the buildd admin with the porters. I expect > > Maybe that's because the buildd admins used to be the porters, and then, > for some reason I do not understand, this mysteriously stopped being > true. Usuall

Re: restricted sourceless ARM uploads

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:50:12PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006, Bill Gatliff wrote: > > > For the faster arches, i.e. the ARM9 machines and above, I'm thinking > > that we should stick with real hardware so there's no question that the > > binaries will run properly. > >

Re: block device served over network connections

On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 02:26:14AM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: > DDs, > > I am looking for some info on this subject. I have looked at both the > aoetools > and open-iscsi for a solution to the following problem. > > I have a block device that is served over aoe. Basically, I would like to > t

Re: debian-private and Gmail

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 05:08:02AM -0200, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > What I am wanting is to redirect all my @debian.org emails to my Gmail > account (the field "email forwarded to") and to read debian-private > emails on a Debian machine. Thank God for procmail. Wait, no. Thank God for mail

Re: Automatically collect hardware information from users?

On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:51:28PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [hwdb-client] > Shouldn't that be included in popularity-contest? I would think that's a bad idea. I can imagine people not being too happy when finding out that this application

Re: Bug#398793: [Adduser-devel] Bug#398793: adduser: Non system wide readable (home) directories should not be 751

On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:07:47AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 01:04:31PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > > As others have pointed out, umask is probably the correct way to make > > sure that your files are not world readable. This could trivially be >

Re: Fwd: FC6 downloads and installs

On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:28:18AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 02:06:17PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 07:06:33AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Could we have something like this after relea

Re: Fwd: FC6 downloads and installs

On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 07:06:33AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hi, > Could we have something like this after release: [...tracking unique IP addresses that connect to Fedora mirrors...] Doing it that way (checking for people running 'apt-get update' or similar) isn't going to be possible

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:45:34PM +0100, SZALAY Attila wrote: > Hi All! > > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 00:05 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > If the new package has a "Replaces: old_package", it will *take over* > > the conflicting config_files from the old package [1]. > > And there are Packages

Re: Bug#395262: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 10:11:45AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Real or fake makes no difference. Anything that test id or file > permissions will (hopefully) behave the same with fakeroot. Wrong; otherwise there wouldn't be packages who fail to build when root is, in fact, root, as happen

Re: Downgrading the priority of nfs-utils

On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 12:35:37PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > "Miles" == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Miles> [Isn't nfs4 rather different than previous versions, in > Miles> that it's fixed some of the most egregious "nfs > Miles> bogosities"?] > > I have been told

Re: Downgrading the priority of nfs-utils

On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:17:55AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > "Goswin" == Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Goswin> But wouldn't you be surprised if "mount -tnfs server:/path > Goswin> /local/path" suddenly wouldn't work anymore in a fresh > Goswin> install? >

Re: Downgrading the priority of nfs-utils

On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:50:09AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: > Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It's not the bare minimum to make the system work (that's Essential: > > yes). It's the standard stuff that everyone expects to be on a UNIX > > system, including things like a work

Re: 2 ftpds packages conflicts

On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 09:24:23AM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0100, Sz?kelyi Szabolcs wrote: > > can anyone tell why ftpds do conflict with each other and why httpds do > > not? > > Actually the httpds should conflict too as they install listeners on > 0.0.0.0:

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy (was: First draft of review of policy must usage)

On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:41:40PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> This flows from the Release policy. Not specifying /bin/bash > >> in scripts is not considered a RC bug. > > > I can try to pro

Re: Alioth upgrade -- done

On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez, 2006-10-28 16:16:31 -0400 : > > Excellent. Thanks for the hard work. This is not a problem, per > > se, but rather a question. I saw that the new Alioth server has 8GB > > of RAM, but now swap space. I understand

Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 03:34:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 02:31:54AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Can I ask why you people (not only you Pierre, generic question) are > Cc-ing vo

Re: libc6 2.5 and Etch

On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:42:08PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > When Sarge was released, amd64 was not officially released but had an > unofficial release. why not do the same with the hopes tha etch+1 will > see m68k in relase shape? That's exactly what we're planning to do. -- Home is where you

Re: New source package

On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:47:10AM +0100, David Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I have developed some new software, an audioscrobbler client for last.fm, > which I would > like to see included, probably under Multimedia. > > It consists of two simple C source files - how do I go about getting it > include

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:58:42AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviour: create a fortune-file with helpful > > tips for newbies, and add a line in the default initialization files > > (i.e., those in /etc/skel) for

Re: Fwd: How can the OS autodetect that a user is a newbie and offer help?

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:26:26AM -0200, Yves Junqueira wrote: > It may be much cleaner to include help links /etc/motd, adivising the > user to read a hipothetical > "/usr/share/doc/linux-beginners/new-users", or enter a help-mode by > typing a certain command. Or we could mimic FreeBSD behaviou

Re: [Help] Please compile clustalw on architectures ia64, mips, mipsel, s390 and m68k

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:38:49PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Andreas Tille wrote: > > >When I maintained this package I tried and I guess my successors tried > >as well. Another solution was suggested nearly 5 years ago > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:33:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > not others (like gnome) should not be allowed. If the port decides > that they don't need any X, e.g. there is no hardware capable of > running X applications, then they could remove all X stuff as a > whole. That would be diff

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 01:13:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/15/06 00:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > [snip] >

Re: Alas for lilypond in etch

On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:35:43PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Failing that, we can either remove lilypond 2.6 from etch, or not. I > am happy to do what other people judge to be best, since nobody is > generally happy with my own decisions here. I would think it would be an _extremely_ b

Bug#391246: general: Buildds should consider changing $HOME

On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 07:40:42AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Of course the clean solution would be to signal to the tools not to look > and write into HOME, but it's hardly realistic to assume that all tools > used (an ever increasing and changing set) will always follow such a > rule. Therefor

Bug#391246: general: Buildds should consider changing $HOME

On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:21PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Package: general > Severity: wishlist > > "general" is not the best package to report this to, but since there's > no "buildd" package, and I don't want it to be completely forgotten, > I'll report it here. I'm quoting from a bugrepo

Re: gids assigned non-deterministically

On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:16:45AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I guess that if the deployment were on a new network, it would be easier > to affect how the gids are assigned, since you would be looking for > issues like that. However, for an existing network, this can be more of > a problem

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 11:52:58AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Hi Andreas and Christian, > would it be kooky to use numbers instead of letters and then have the > help screen show what the number mean: eg. > task=001 # sets gnome desktop > task=002 # sets kde desktop That doesn't work, as already t

Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 04:38:51AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: [on gnash] > In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to > display even trivial pages. Isn't that a given for anything even remotely related to flash? -- Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-de

Re: new mplayer

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:01:32AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: > I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and > vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have > everything you need. Except that mplayer is blazingly fast in comparison.

Re: Setting up pbuilder or sbuild like experimental buildds

On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:04:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > except that you also would need to patch sbuild to build from > > experimental. I've been giving that patch to everyone who's asked me for >

Re: stale lock files

On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 06:56:03PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 23 septembre 2006 à 10:33 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a > > What do you do on fuse, afs, coda, oracle fs, lustrefs? Do they all > > have fcntl? > > AFAIK, afs, fuse and ocfs2 have (although recently introduced) posix >

Re: Setting up pbuilder or sbuild like experimental buildds

On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 07:07:14PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > You also need to downgrade packages back to unstable when the build > needed some package from experimental. So you should pin to >1000 and > run apt-get dist-upgrade between builds as a minimum. > > Or just throw away the chr

Re: Error with dh_gencontrol

This is really a question for -mentors, rather than -devel. Cc set, please send follow-ups (if any) only there. On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:19:04PM +, Rodrigo Tavares wrote: > Hello, > > When I run the command below, come this error message: > > > mypc:~/script-1.4# dh_gencontrol > dh_gencon

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:18:32PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > The whitelist field in mailman accepts regular expressions. This is > > trivial. > > If you can _find_ the whitelist field. It is very w

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 10:08:02PM -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote: > I know I am in for an argument, but I think it is a good > question. I'm sure many of you have read Mark's blog: > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56. It says 76% of Debian > users run unstable and probably a fair frac

Re: whitelisting @*.debian.org (was: Request to mailing list Pkg-qof-maintainers rejected)

On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it's not the first time such a question is raised, I did that recently > > enough, for a foo-package I don't even remember (some python messages > > that bounced to me). that is compl

Re: The debian boot dependency graph image

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:09:49PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 07, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:11:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > Now, try thinking about how many of the blocks which are not liste

Re: The debian boot dependency graph image

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:11:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Now, try thinking about how many of the blocks which are not listed > as depending on udev actually do. None, because udev isn't actually a hard dependency for any of those scripts, so listing it as such is wrong. -- Home is where

Re: debconf: DbDriver "templatedb": could not sync

On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:29:13PM +0200, Udo Mueller wrote: > fsck.ext3 runs without any error message. Did you do "fsck -f", or just "fsck"? In case you did the latter, please run it with -f again. -- Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22 -- To

Re: glibc and UNACCEPTs

On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:34:31AM +0200, BALLABIO GERARDO wrote: > Is there any sensible reason for ever uploading a package in unstable > with a higher version than in experimental? If not, such uploads can > simply be forbidden altogether. The documented and preferred way to remove packages fro

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas? Debian official "update sub-release"

On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:26:22AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: [volatile and backports] > As it is, it is unclear to me who is building those packages, of what > quality they are, and what kind of security support they are receiving. Volatile was set up by Andreas Barth, and is maintained by Andrea

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:33:00AM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: > Wouter: > >>I don't tell the ideology is not valid; I just tell that often this is > >>in the state "Users, wait until we solve this ideologically, it may > >>take some years". Well, user dosen't have the years and need things >

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:46:20AM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: > I cannot 100% agree with You, althought Your point is for sure partially > valid. > > I really don't believe that Debian can equal itself with Ubuntu in terms > of user friendliness. There is so much to say about that, that I

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:34:51PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 25 août 2006 à 23:11 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > The problem with the python policy is that there is no policy as to > > where the modules are supposed to be installed. Depending on the tool > > you are using (pyth

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:46:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Let me rephrase it: the internals of python-support, and how it helps > implementing the python policy, are developed in the python-support > documentation. They don't need to be part of the policy Yes they do. > and they have no

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:12:04AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:05:53PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Am 2006-07-28 12:43:55, schrieb John Goerzen: > > > > > I like the fact that a base Debian install is only 100MB. Most of > > > Debian's competitors are 10 times t

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 05:56:07PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > installed, can't be put into the Policy. The Policy editor, and those of > use who don't want to use debhelper, insist that writing policy based on > debhelper tools is not acceptable. Not just those who don't want to use debhelper.

Re: debconf and substitution of non-translated text

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:41:11AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > But, if pkg=apache, this becomes: > > La configuration de apache sera modifiée. > > While it should be: > > La configuration d'apache sera modifiée. True. But then, in most languages this can be worked around by using differen

Re: heimdal & KCM

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:45:16AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > * create heimdal-kcm package. > Pros: very flexible. > Cons: users may not realise it exists. Use a suggests or recommends header in heimdal-clients. Most dpkg frontends will tell users about packages in those, these days. -- Fun w

Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 07:48:29PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > su, 2006-08-20 kello 18:08 +0200, Wouter Verhelst kirjoitti: > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 03:59:17PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > [...] > > > fprintf(stderr, "Could not r

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:24:49PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On 2006-08-20 20:00:57, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > >If the current build system supports those arches, and yours does > >not, > You can hardly call it the "Current build system" as it is a number of > Makefiles in which you n

Re: using long long and printf("%m") in debian

On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 03:59:17PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: [...] > fprintf(stderr, "Could not read file: %s: %s\n", filename, > strerror(errno)); > > Please consider the above a minimal requirement for an error message: it > reports the operation that was attempted (reading a

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:00:13PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 15:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > but that Solaris itself is not > > particularly well suited to PC-class hardware (because it has less > > drivers, or whatever). > > This

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the wrong ideas (was: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier)

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:59:26AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > That is a *very* bad idea. > > Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few > people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting > whatever comes from the Ubuntu world

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:46:49PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > hmmm... I don't think a sane seasoned Solaris admin would evaluate a > Unix-like operating system for server-class work by installing its > 'Desktop' task, perhaps? A seasoned Solaris admin may very well be of the opinion tha

Re: afraid to build from source? (was Re: Remove cdrtools)

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:42:09AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Michael Poole] > > On top of the default automake behavior being horribly broken, does > > that make usual revision control practices horribly broken? > > It really bothers me to hear people claim as a best practice that you > sho

Re: Remove cdrtools

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:40:41PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > >> In my experience, this is greatly exacerbated and perhaps even > >> primarily due to older versions of autotools encouraging or requiring > >> behavior that later ve

Re: Code of Conduct on the Debian mailinglists

On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:39:51AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > "Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So I really wonder why mailing lists are so common. > > It sort of depends on what you're looking for. > > Some advantages of mailing lists: > > * E-mail generally has a "wider reach" --

Re: Packaging software which does not use autotools

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:50:51PM +0200, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Hi list, > > I have some questions I hope some of you have an answer for. > > I intend to package a peace of software which does not use autotools > but only has a plain Makefile. > > 1) Can I use dh_make? Sure. > 2) Does D

Re: Remove cdrtools

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:59:24PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > >> On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > At 11553917

Re: Remove cdrtools

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:58:13AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Aug-06, 09:09 (CDT), Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 1155391794 past the epoch, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > > Btw, why always the autotools while there's this nice > > > cmake? > > > > I've never used cmake myse

Re: VMware packaging

On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 01:59:57AM +0100, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:25:59AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > > > reposi

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > The second feature is quite cool; update-notifier uses hal to detect > that a new CD/DVD was inserted and tries to figure out whether that is > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid mes

Re: Buildds still not picking up new architectures, why?

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 04:38:20PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > So there is ONE w-b for {i386,ppc,...) and there is one buildd for each > arch that connects to that ONE w-b? No. There is one system where wanna-build databases are stored. That single one wanna-build system has, of course, multiple da

Re: cdrtools

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:25:11PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > 1)Throw out Eduard Bloch. rotflmao. -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PRO

Re: cdrtools

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 03:44:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Indeed, you are not free to add whatever piece of crap to the Debian > > archive regardless of the license. Call it a non-free project if you > > want, but this would only look like a calumniation campaign against us. > > If you

Re: cdrtools

On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can quote major parts of it by heart since a few years, does that > > help? > > If you like to discuss the GPL with other people, it is irrelevent w

Re: Code of Conduct on the Debian mailinglists

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:04:05PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You know, I use a mail program. Replying to people is in my fingers > > as "hitting a button". A very specific button, especially for that > > p

Re: Code of Conduct on the Debian mailinglists

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 08:21:28AM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > In short, it's a mess. Lots of improvements can be made, to MUAs, MLMs, as > well as MTAs. An RFC straightening things out could help. ... Or we could all just forget about mailinglists and start using newsgroups instead. They don

Code of Conduct on the Debian mailinglists

On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:20:26AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:34 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > > > > Ok, third time. Please do not do that: > > > To: George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > > > Then SET YOUR HEADERS to reflect

Re: cdrtools

On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:32:58PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You should better _read_ the GPL and try to understand it. > > > > Good plan. > > Did you have some time to make your plan reality meanw

Re: cdrtools

On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 08:28:04PM -0500, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 10:03:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:25:00AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Note it is unclear whether the makefiles could be called "scr

Re: cdrtools

On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:25:00AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > >Erast Benson wrote: > >> I do not need to make the build system > >> available under GPL (GPL §3 requires me to make it available but does > >> not mention a license) > > >GPL 3(a) requires the "comp

Re: ARM toolchain is not up-to-date

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 01:47:26PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >&

Re: buildd logs for experimental

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 03:28:13PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: [...first part was answered...] > Would it be possible to add the experimental build logs to the log pages > at http://buildd.debian.org/build.php ? That would be a really fine > service. I do agree that they would belong there. We've

Re: ARM toolchain is not up-to-date

On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Some of the ARM buildds are still not using G++ 4.1 as the default C++ > > compiler, nearly two months after the default was changed. I already > > reported this over a month ago

Re: lilypond and python

On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:25:59PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - From http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/07/msg00684.html: > > > But I don't alas, have the time to spend on a workaround patch myself, > > > which will (supposedly

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 5

On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 04:39:24AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 06:32:54PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Steve Greenland wrote: > > > This really seems like something that while they may, very occasionally, > > > be required, are mostly unnecessary and often misused. > > >

Re: Challenge: Binary free uploading

On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 12:00:56PM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these > > builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who

Re: Bug#350468: libpcre3: install libpcre.so* in /lib

On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 11:48:52AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 07:25:25PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 07:11:59PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > >On 2006-01-29 Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Packag

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 5

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > libbeid2 > libbeidlibopensc2 That was fixed by an upload last night. It should no longer be a problem now. -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes

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