Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:12:56 -0400, Micah Anderson mi...@riseup.net wrote: Can you clarify what you mean by standardised technology? I work on the monkeysphere project, and from my point of view, I'd have to disagree with you, but I may not understand what you mean. What I mean was simply

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-17 Thread micah anderson
On Mon, 17 May 2010 08:25:50 +, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:12:56 -0400, Micah Anderson mi...@riseup.net wrote: Can you clarify what you mean by standardised technology? I work on the monkeysphere project, and from my point of view, I'd

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 09:40 -0400, micah anderson wrote: RFC 5081 is still quite a while off from widespread adoption. When it is more widely adopted, we will be in a much better situation, until then the monkeysphere is operating as an interim translation step (keeping the on-the-wire

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-16 Thread Micah Anderson
Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes: On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 21:01 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: You might be interested in monkeysphere ...and in RFC 5081 I haven't had a detailed look on monkeyspehre so far, but it seemed at a first glance, that it does not use standardised

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-16 Thread Micah Anderson
Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes: On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 21:01 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: You might be interested in monkeysphere ...and in RFC 5081 I haven't had a detailed look on monkeyspehre so far, but it seemed at a first glance, that it does not use standardised

[OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-15 Thread Eray Aslan
On 15.05.2010 08:24, Russ Allbery wrote: Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes: And personally, I really do _not_ trust some of the CAs which are included/enabled per default. Having done business with several of them, I don't trust any commercial CA. This is a way more

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Eray Aslan eray.as...@caf.com.tr wrote: Amen.   PKI is a naive design and for all intents and purposes will remain a pipe-dream.  All security relationships that is worth anything is bilateral and no trusted third party is willing to accept enough risk to

Re: [OT] Re: Open then gates

2010-05-15 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 21:01 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: You might be interested in monkeysphere ...and in RFC 5081 I haven't had a detailed look on monkeyspehre so far, but it seemed at a first glance, that it does not use standardised technology, does it? Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: