Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/25/2012 12:15 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: No, it makes the process based on *consensus*, which is a minimum requirement. How many people should send ACKs in this system? - If it's a lot of people, then it's hard to hunt for so many. - If it's not a lot of people, then it hardly can be

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 14:59:09 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: So, what will you do if: - previous maintainer goes MIA - Somebody wants to hija^W salvage the package and starts the procedure - Nobody votes for this to happen... They should use the already existing MIA process instead...

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 01:57:12AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: I remember when I started a thread about 6 months ago, willing to take over maintainership of a clearly unmaintained package (since then, all other packages of this maintainer have been orphaned...). It (unwillingly) created a

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:48:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Silence is not assent. That thread blew up because you proposed a *broken* No, silence is an indication that you don't deserve any decision-making power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 09:46:08PM +, Clint Adams a écrit : On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:48:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Silence is not assent. That thread blew up because you proposed a *broken* No, silence is an indication that you don't deserve any decision-making power. Hi all,

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 08:38:19AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 09:46:08PM +, Clint Adams a écrit : On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:48:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Silence is not assent. That thread blew up because you proposed a *broken* No, silence is an

[SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, Here is an attempt at summarizing building a proposal out of the Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal thread that was started at [1]. The following aims at being written in a form suitable for inclusion in developers-reference.

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, thanks for the proposal. It looks good, generally speaking and being in consent with the previous discussion we had. Some minor tweaks: On 23.10.2012 11:27, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 1. Someone opens an ITO (Intent to Orphan) bug against the package whose orphaning is suggested, with the

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:27:43AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The following aims at being written in a form suitable for inclusion in developers-reference. Thanks for this summary ... and patch then! The NMU procedure (described in developers-reference section 5.11) enables other

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:27:43AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Here is an attempt at summarizing building a proposal out of the Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal thread that was started at [1]. The following aims at being written in a form

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-10-23, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote: Hi, Here is an attempt at summarizing building a proposal out of the Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal thread that was started at [1]. Some years ago, people used a much simpler process. Why

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 05:19:37 PM Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2012-10-23, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote: Hi, Here is an attempt at summarizing building a proposal out of the Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal thread that was

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:40:39PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: 4. When/if consensus has been reached, the package can be orphaned by retitling and reassigning the ITO bug accordingly. I fear a bit the situation nobody care enough to comment, being interpreted as lack of consensus.

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:19:37PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: 1) report a bug 'should this package be orphaned?' against the package with a more or less defalut templated text and a serious severity 2) sleep 4*7*24*3600 3) if bug silent, orphan it (and maybe adopt it) According to the

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:19:37PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: 1) report a bug 'should this package be orphaned?' against the package with a more or less defalut templated text and a serious severity 2) sleep 4*7*24*3600 3) if bug silent, orphan it

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:27:43AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : The following aims at being written in a form suitable for inclusion in developers-reference. Hi Lucas, first of all, thank you for the summary. At the end, the final text may not please everybody, but my feeling is that

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 01:40:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:40:39PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: 4. When/if consensus has been reached, the package can be orphaned by retitling and reassigning the ITO bug accordingly. I fear a bit the situation

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