Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:13:24PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Why do so many seem to have difficulty with this concept? They're lazy. Is it worthwhile to Cc this stuff to -devel, Yes. It calls out the offenders for public shaming. If they honestly didn't know about the recommended best

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:41:34PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're getting upset about bug closings that absolutely *do* include a description of what the maintainer changed in order to fix them: incorporating a new upstream release. That this is

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-28 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Brian Nelson wrote: Is it worthwhile to Cc this stuff to -devel, or should I just give up and let the proliferation of these IMO useless changelogs continue? (serious, not rhetorical, questions) IMHO you should continue. Peer pressure is a powerful concept. ;-) -- Matthias Urlichs |

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Brian Nelson
reopen 159971 reopen 124472 reopen 147059 reopen 70184 thanks Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 01:15:33 +0200 Source: bwidget Binary: bwidget Architecture: source all Version: 1.6.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Anselm

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 26 May 2003, Brian Nelson wrote: Umm, no, the changelog is for listing changes (*change* log, get it?), not for just closing bugs without any reason given whatsoever. Why do so many seem to have difficulty with this concept? Is it worthwhile to Cc this stuff to -devel, or should I

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon 26 May 2003, Brian Nelson wrote: Umm, no, the changelog is for listing changes (*change* log, get it?), not for just closing bugs without any reason given whatsoever. Why do so many seem to have difficulty with this concept? Is it worthwhile

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 08:39:50AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Perhaps a separate, concise message to debian-devel-announce? I doubt it would help. I see changelog abuse as an act of laziness, not ignorance. Common sense says that you should be listing changes in the changelog. It's not

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Brian Nelson
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 08:39:50AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Perhaps a separate, concise message to debian-devel-announce? I doubt it would help. I see changelog abuse as an act of laziness, not ignorance. Common sense says that you should be

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Brian Nelson
Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Brian On [26/05/03 23:13], Brian Nelson wrote: Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] * Closes: #159971, #124472, #147059, #70184. Umm, no, the changelog is for listing changes (*change* log, get it?), not for just closing bugs

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:15:37PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: 1. To show others, especially NM's, what not to do. NM's mostly learn by example, and I think it helps to ensure they don't follow bad examples. 2. It's something that should be obvious. Producing poor quality

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Brian Nelson
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:15:37PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: 1. To show others, especially NM's, what not to do. NM's mostly learn by example, and I think it helps to ensure they don't follow bad examples. 2. It's something that should be

Re: Accepted bwidget 1.6.0-1 (all source)

2003-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:41:34PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Obvious is a key word indicating that you need to check your assumptions at the door. While I will certainly concede that changelogs that spell out the nature of relevant upstream changes are more useful than those which do