Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiousity, what _did_ you expect the blocking tag to do? [...] The one thing that I really wanted to have happen and was surprised didn't happen was that I wanted a blocking annotation be

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-12 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:07:28 -0600, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiousity, what _did_ you expect the blocking tag to do? I would for example, expect the blocked bug to be notified when something relevant happens to the blocking bug. And, I would expect it to be

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:41:40 +0100, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:07:28 -0600, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiousity, what _did_ you expect the blocking tag to do? I would for example, expect the blocked bug to be notified when something

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:08:56 +0100, Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afaik there are no changes in behavior. blocks are only informational. If this is true, it is a _TOTAL_ surprise for me. We need better documentation. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No

Re: blocking bugs [Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?]

2006-12-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:45:13 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This all may change at some point in the future, but since that's the way it works now, the documentation is pretty complete. I disagree. As blocking bugs are usually implemented differently, at least a sentence as all

Re: blocking bugs [Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?]

2006-12-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: Bug blocking only being a specialized kind of tagging is a total surprise for me. And I suspect that I am not the only one. Since it's confusing to you, you're the best person to submit patches. Don Armstrong -- Taxes are not levied for the benefit of

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 10:01:58AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:08:56 +0100, Andreas Metzler Afaik there are no changes in behavior. blocks are only informational. If this is true, it is a _TOTAL_ surprise for me. We need better documentation. IIRC it also generates mail

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:01:58 +0100, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 11:08:56 +0100, Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afaik there are no changes in behavior. blocks are only informational. If this is true, it is a _TOTAL_ surprise for me. We need better

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiousity, what _did_ you expect the blocking tag to do? If there is an obvious answer to that, I can see why not having that behaviour would be a surprise. Since I can't come up with a reasonable response to what additional

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Joey Hess
Russ Allbery wrote: The one thing that I really wanted to have happen and was surprised didn't happen was that I wanted a blocking annotation be automatically removed when the blocking bug was closed. (Or even better, made dormant so that if the other bug would reopen, the annotation would

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Brian May
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey I agree, if I had some ability to work on blocking bugs Joey again, removing them on close is probably the next thing I'd Joey try to do. ... and if the blocking bug is reopened? Or what if the blocking bug is fixed in, say the

blockers [Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?]

2006-12-11 Thread Don Armstrong
[MFT set to debian-debbugs, which is the right list to discuss this sort of thing.] On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Joey Hess wrote: I agree, if I had some ability to work on blocking bugs again, removing them on close is probably the next thing I'd try to do. I personally haven't really had time to

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:19:59 -0500, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Russ Allbery wrote: The one thing that I really wanted to have happen and was surprised didn't happen was that I wanted a blocking annotation be automatically removed when the blocking bug was closed. (Or even better,

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-11 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiousity, what _did_ you expect the blocking tag to do? If there is an obvious answer to that, I can see why not having that behaviour would be a surprise. The one thing that I really wanted to

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:56:27 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:51:26 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ GET http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control|grep block dtcodeblock/code varbugnumber/var codeby/code

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:56:27 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:51:26 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ GET http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control|grep block

blocking bugs [Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?]

2006-12-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: What happens to a bug when it's blocked? Nothing, besides a little link in to the blockee's information to the blocker's page. Which operations do behave as if the bug were not blocked, All. which operations behave differently, None. and what's the

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:51:26 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ GET http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control|grep block dtcodeblock/code varbugnumber/var codeby/code varbug/var ... ddNote that the fix for the first bug is blocked by the other listed bugs. dtcodeunblock/code

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:51:26 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ GET http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control|grep block dtcodeblock/code varbugnumber/var codeby/code varbug/var ... ddNote that the fix for the first bug is blocked by the

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-05 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 12:43:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Roberto C Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean so that different people can file the same bug over and over again? Personally, I'd like to see a notabug tag so that you can have a bug still appear on the BTS page but not

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: Has blocking been documented since I looked for the last time? Blocking has been documented for quite some time: revision 1.54 date: 2006-07-13 15:14:12 -0700; author: joeyh; state: Exp; lines: +7 -0 document block/unblock Don Armstrong -- I'd

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 00:30:40 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: Has blocking been documented since I looked for the last time? Blocking has been documented for quite some time: revision 1.54 date: 2006-07-13 15:14:12 -0700; author: joeyh;

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 08:51:51AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:05:21 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: On Nov 30, Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what about the middle case, i.e. the behaviour described could be reproduced, but it's not a bug,

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Roberto C Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean so that different people can file the same bug over and over again? Personally, I'd like to see a notabug tag so that you can have a bug still appear on the BTS page but not count (maybe even put the notabug bugs at the top or after the RC

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 00:30:40 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2006, Marc Haber wrote: Blocking has been documented for quite some time: revision 1.54 date: 2006-07-13 15:14:12 -0700; author: joeyh; state: Exp; lines: +7 -0

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:05:21 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: On Nov 30, Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what about the middle case, i.e. the behaviour described could be reproduced, but it's not a bug, or at least not our fault? (Bugzilla calls this INVALID). I

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:51:07 -0800, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least one of the bugs should be reassigned; you can of course clone a bug, reassign it, make the original blocking on the reassigned bug, and retitle the original to indicate what is the problem. [There is a wishlist bug

BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-11-30 Thread Magnus Holmgren
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer defines the following tags as reasons to dismiss a bug report: * wontfix: the behaviour described can be reproduced or the feature request is understood; it is indeed an issue with our package but we can't or won't do anything about it because there are

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-11-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 30, Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what about the middle case, i.e. the behaviour described could be reproduced, but it's not a bug, or at least not our fault? (Bugzilla calls this INVALID). I agree that it could be useful, since I get a lot of these cases... -- ciao,

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-11-30 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Magnus Holmgren may or may not have written... [snip] Often, but not always, the bug can or should be reassigned to another package, but then a second user might come around and submit the same bug report. Then, when showing bugs for that package, shouldn't those reassigned bugs

Re: BTS: Why no invalid or notabug tag?

2006-11-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Magnus Holmgren wrote: what about the middle case, i.e. the behaviour described could be reproduced, but it's not a bug, or at least not our fault? (Bugzilla calls this INVALID). Often, but not always, the bug can or should be reassigned to another package, but then a