Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
[I am not subscribed to debian-devel, please Cc: me if you feel your reply deserves my attention.] On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 10:10 +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: The basics of the new format are: * Multiple upstream tarballs are supported:

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Simon Huggins
Hi Scott, On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: It's no harder to backport dpkg-dev than it is debhelper; so I think it really just comes down to what formats the FTP masters (and dear katie) are prepared to accept. Are you pushing for this or just seeing what's

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: Historically we always wanted to be able to use all the source in the archive with the tools available in stable. If that policy is still true you would be able to use the new features by the time edge releases with the

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 09:18 +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: It's no harder to backport dpkg-dev than it is debhelper; so I think it really just comes down to what formats the FTP masters (and dear katie) are prepared to

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 11:20 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: Historically we always wanted to be able to use all the source in the archive with the tools available in stable. If that policy is still true you would be

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:39:30AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: Yes, that's what we mean. The reason is that for various things (e.g., buildd, ftp-mastery, ...), we need to be able to manipulate source packages with the tools in stable. Note, I said manipulate, not build. Why

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 11:50 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:39:30AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: Yes, that's what we mean. The reason is that for various things (e.g., buildd, ftp-mastery, ...), we need to be able to manipulate source packages with the

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:50:43AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:39:30AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: Yes, that's what we mean. The reason is that for various things (e.g., buildd, ftp-mastery, ...), we need to be able to manipulate source packages with

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Anthony Towns
Scott James Remnant wrote: Yes, that's what we mean. The reason is that for various things (e.g., buildd, ftp-mastery, ...), we need to be able to manipulate source packages with the tools in stable. Note, I said manipulate, not build. Why can't you just install the unstable ones? For

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:30:07 +0100, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That's sadly totally untrue. Either you mean use all the source in the archive with the DPKG-DEV available in stable -- or it was utterly violated by all the packages in the sarge period that used (e.g.)

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: The basics of the new format are: * Multiple upstream tarballs are supported: * The Debian Diff may be replaced by the Debian Tar: * Bzip2 compression is supported as an alternative to gzip. As a practical matter, how soon will

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-06-13 kello 10:10 +0200, Peter Palfrader kirjoitti: Historically we always wanted to be able to use all the source in the archive with the tools available in stable. If that policy is still true you would be able to use the new features by the time edge releases with the new dpkg.

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-13 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:05:56 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: [...] * The Debian Diff may be replaced by the Debian Tar: Instead of placing your changes and Debian directory as a patch against the upstream tarball in a diff.gz, you may instead ship the Debian directory

Re: Bits from the dpkg maintainer

2005-06-12 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 12 June 2005 14:05, Scott James Remnant wrote: The Wig Pen (Format: 2.0) source format is an evolutionary (rather than revolutionary) change to the current source package format. Brendan O'Dea's work on providing _unpack_ support has been integrated into dpkg-source. Support for