Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Dunham wrote: The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) Yes, my adaptec 152x card is PnP. hint: don't use isapnp after booting from a PnP scsi-card! Wichert. --

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 06:10:16PM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) Yes, a lot of modern soundcards

Bootint big kernels was Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)

1998-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 09:17:20PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: When you boot the kernel it copies the Image from the disk to 0x1000 (about 64k). If the Image is beyond 600k then you have a problem because it suddenly will not all fit in low

Re: Bootint big kernels was Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)

1998-06-11 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Another solution is the one that slackware provides. They build a bunch of kernels, each one for a specific hardware configuration (broad enought to cover a range of hardware, and chosen to keep incopatibly drivers out of the picture {like the wd9000

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was necessary to have all the scsi controlers built in to the kernel, hense its large

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:13:37PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: Using initrd, our default kernel may be reduced to half its current size, as all those different controllers may be built as modules and only the required ones will be loaded at boot time. That will save our users a few hundred

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:25:59AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:13:37PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: Using initrd, our default kernel may be reduced to half its current size, as all those different controllers may be built as modules and only the required ones

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was necessary to have all the scsi

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do the device selection, other than going through a list of drivers, trying to insmod each one until you are successful. Wouldn't PCI

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 11:45:56AM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do the device selection, other than going through a list of

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was necessary to have all the scsi controlers built in to the kernel, hense its large

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 10:02:21AM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: This is, if I recall, exactly what initrd was made for. Your bootloader (eg. lilo) loads an initial ramdisk containing all the kernel modules you might need. An init script on the ramdisk loads the right modules (however you

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Steve Dunham
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Steve Dunham
Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 11:45:56AM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do the device