On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:21:57AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
For instance it fails to remove this construct:
link type=text/css
rel=stylesheet
href=/foo.css /
Or rel=alternate stylesheet, and the various combinations that
arise from support of non-graphical readers, etc.
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:01:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:48:55PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:03:00AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
As soon as we can package the real thing, we should probably rename the
HTML/CSS decss as decss-html and release the real decss using a new
epoch.
No need, the real decss will probably be a library or something such.
Friendly,
Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As soon as we can package the real thing, we should probably rename the
HTML/CSS decss as decss-html and release the real decss using a new
epoch.
Whit even more confusion to our users for a weak political statement
whit no real relation to the
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote:
And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/
executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with
a sed one-liner?
If it's so easy to type in, I'd have expected it in your response.
Well,
* Sam Hocevar
| On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote:
|
| And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the
package/
| executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with
| a sed one-liner?
|
| If it's so easy to type in, I'd have expected
Sam Hocevar wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If
Debian cannot distribute the decss that allows Debian users to view DVD
movies (yet), then distributing this one is a good alternative, I'd say.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/
| executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with
| a sed one-liner?
oh? what sed one-liner would that be?
That trivial one, for instance:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| I expect anyone with minor common sense and minor sed/
| awk/perl/whatever practice to understand the triviality of that program.
It's not possible to parse all valid SGML using regexes, iirc.
And HTML makes it even harder since very few
* Sam Hocevar
| On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| |And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the
package/
| | executable namespace with a useless program that could be replaced with
| | a sed one-liner?
|
| oh? what sed one-liner would that be?
|
|
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| sed -e
's%\(link[^]*rel=stylesheet[^]*\|style.*/style\|\(style\|class\|id\)=[^]*\)%%g'
it doesn't handle style/text-align: left / kind of elements either.
And does decss handle them? If it does not, I suggest you explain the
point you are
SL == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SL Since you're the upstream author, I'll ask: have you ever
SL actually used this script yourself? If so... why? :) (And is
SL the stripping of class/id attributes a bug?)
I've used the script to promote freedom.
For that particular
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've used the script to promote freedom.
How the hell does you promote freedom by removing stylesheets from
html?
--
Peter Makholm | Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |pants and
PM == Peter Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PM How the entertainment industry manages to handle their
PM copyright has nothing to do with free software.
You know nothing, pink boy.
~ESP
--
Evan Prodromou
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PM How the entertainment industry manages to handle their
PM copyright has nothing to do with free software.
You know nothing, pink boy.
I know a lot of thing and I know that it is impossible for some people
to differenciate between free
On Thursday 31 July 2003 11:27, Sam Hocevar wrote:
And HTML makes it even harder since very few pages are valid, but
that DeCSS utility uses only regexes anyway.
Technically, using RegExps for CSS will not only become maintenance hell, but
would also limit the usability of such a script for
PM == Peter Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Me I've used the script to promote freedom.
PM How the hell does you promote freedom by removing stylesheets
PM from html?
It's amazing, isn't it?
Anyways, the W3C thought the tool was important enough to list on
their CSS site:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-30
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: decss
Version : 0.06
Upstream Author : Mr. Bad of Pigdog Journal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.pigdog.org/decss/
* License : Artistic
Description : utility
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:52:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-30
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: decss
Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
--
Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wookimus.net/
Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:52:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-30
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: decss
Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
If you read the website, that was the point ;)
-- Keith
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Keith Dunwoody wrote:
* Package name: decss
Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
If you read the website, that was the point ;)
And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/
executable namespace with a useless program that
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:56:15PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Keith Dunwoody wrote:
* Package name: decss
Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
If you read the website, that was the point ;)
And what is the point of confusing our users
Keith Dunwoody [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chad Walstrom wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:52:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-30
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: decss
Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
If you
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:19AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
I wrote a small utility called DeCSS that strips Cascading Style
Sheet tags from an HTML document. Yes, agreed, that's pretty much
USELESS, but what the fuck. Maybe somebody wants to do that.
Why the hell should this be packaged
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If
Debian cannot distribute the decss that allows Debian users to view DVD
movies (yet), then
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:33:15AM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
I object strongly too... this is like having one of those 'joke' shells
in the archive :)
Unfortunately, there's a strong historical precedent for the inclusion
of csh, making it difficult to get rid of... The same thing could
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If
Debian
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:48:55PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If
Debian cannot distribute the decss that allows Debian
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:38:12AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss package in Debian. If
Debian cannot
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:56:53PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss
* Sam Hocevar
| On Wed, Jul 30, 2003, Keith Dunwoody wrote:
| * Package name: decss
|
| Like that won't be a confusing package name. ;-p
|
| If you read the website, that was the point ;)
|
|And what is the point of confusing our users and cluttering the package/
| executable
On 2003-07-30T12:22:55-0500 (Wednesday), Steve Langasek wrote:
In addition to removing style tags, the DeCSS script removes class and
id attributes. Therefore, strictly speaking, not everything removed is
CSS; and much of it is likely to be logical markup.
Removing the id attribute is
Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Cc'ed the bug-report)
Uhh, it is to tweak the international copyright cartel, and the RIAA in
particular. They have written cease and desist letters to anyone who
has a file names deCSS on their system.
If this is the main reason to include it in Debian
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:48:55PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object.
I think it's a
SL == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SL If the intent is *only* as a political tool, I would agree
SL that this decss program achieves its aims fairly effectively;
SL but it is in no way a useful piece of *software*, which is
SL what Emile seems to be arguing by
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:41:37PM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote:
SL == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SL If the intent is *only* as a political tool, I would agree
SL that this decss program achieves its aims fairly effectively;
SL but it is in no way a useful piece of
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