Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Michael Biebl] That's not quite correct. Upstart not only handles the relationship between hardware events and services (start ntpdate when network interface is available and configured) but also between services and services (start hal when dbus is available etc). Upstart handles the

Re: upstart (Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups)

2007-07-06 Thread Oleg Verych
* martin f krafft (Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:57:57 +0200) also sprach Oleg Verych [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.07.05.1957 +0200]: Unless i will see any kind of implemented proposal, i.e. tar or deb that i can use/test on base installation, it's a *technical* problem. So why don't you use your time to

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Touko Korpela] Is there any ideas to fix this? I'm having same problem with ntp+dnsmasq My idea for fixing this is to reorder the sysv boot sequence using dependency information, and allow those with special needs to provide extra/replacement dependency

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Touko Korpela] Is there any ideas to fix this? I'm having same problem with ntp+dnsmasq My idea for fixing this is to reorder the sysv boot sequence using dependency information, and allow those with special needs to provide extra/replacement

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 02:26:43AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jul 05, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. Ok, so when do we switch to upstart? Probably at the same time when we will switch from exim to postfix. That's just religion

upstart (Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups)

2007-07-05 Thread Oleg Verych
* Hamish Moffatt (Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:28:20 +1000) On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 02:26:43AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jul 05, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. Ok, so when do we switch to upstart? Probably at the same time when we

Re: upstart (Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups)

2007-07-05 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Oleg Verych [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.07.05.1957 +0200]: Unless i will see any kind of implemented proposal, i.e. tar or deb that i can use/test on base installation, it's a *technical* problem. So why don't you use your time to help solve the problem instead of harping on mailing

Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Simon Kelley
Touko Korpela wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: The network is started by /etc/rc0.d/S35networking, which starts ntpdate when eth0 becomes up. At that time, the local nameserver is not yet available, it is started by /etc/rc[2345].d/S15bind9. ntpdate cannot resolve the names of the NTP servers

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 7/4/07, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 04, Touko Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any ideas to fix this? I'm having same problem with ntp+dnsmasq Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. In my case the network connection doesn't come up until after I've logged

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 04, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case the network connection doesn't come up until after I've logged in and given the pasword for the wireless network. I don't think upstart is going to fix that. It is. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Tino Keitel
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 17:11:24 +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On 7/4/07, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 04, Touko Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any ideas to fix this? I'm having same problem with ntp+dnsmasq Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. In

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Brian May
Marco == Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marco Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. Ok, so when do we switch to upstart? -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 05, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. Ok, so when do we switch to upstart? Probably at the same time when we will switch from exim to postfix. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-03 Thread Touko Korpela
Peter Eisentraut wrote: The network is started by /etc/rc0.d/S35networking, which starts ntpdate when eth0 becomes up. At that time, the local nameserver is not yet available, it is started by /etc/rc[2345].d/S15bind9. ntpdate cannot resolve the names of the NTP servers and fails. That is

Re: Bug#417118: ntpdate: Start sequence problem for some network setups

2007-07-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 04, Touko Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any ideas to fix this? I'm having same problem with ntp+dnsmasq Hope that some day we will switch to upstart. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature