Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-07 Thread Vincent Danjean
Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But >> compare your suggestions with: "someone goes over all init scripts, file >> bugs and in lenny+1 we're done". > > That'll cause tremendous

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:13:27 +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> > THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But >> > compare your suggestions with: "so

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:58:17AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But >

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-05 Thread Roger Leigh
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> > THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But >> > compare your suggestions with: "someone goes over all init scripts

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But > > compare your suggestions with: "someone goes over all init scripts, file > > bugs and in lenny+1 we're done". > > T

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:58:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > THanks, I could come up with a transition plan myself if needed. But > compare your suggestions with: "someone goes over all init scripts, file > bugs and in lenny+1 we're done". That'll cause tremendous pain for backporters. I'm o

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >> I'm reluctant to change the default behaviour of start-stop-daemon at this > >> point. What do other people think of making --oknodo the default behaviour > >> and adding a new option to force the current default behaviour (ex

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Vincent Danjean
Steve Langasek wrote: >> I'm reluctant to change the default behaviour of start-stop-daemon at this >> point. What do other people think of making --oknodo the default behaviour >> and adding a new option to force the current default behaviour (exit with >> failure if nothing had to be done)? > >

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:47:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think being LSB compliant is good for Debian. > > The LSB init script specification *is a specification for the init scripts > of LSB packages*. It has NOTHING to do with LSB compliance of LSB > implementations. Debian is an

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 11:02:13PM +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > I think being LSB compliant is good for Debian. That may be so; but changing a long-standing interface with no migration is /not/ good for Debian. -- Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 20

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Right, expanding on my previous comments: On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 11:02:13PM +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > The alternative is to change policy and/or lintian to ensure that packages > > are using --oknodo unless they have a good reason not to. > > > [1] LSB specifications about init script

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:40:53PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > The option "--oknodo" changes the behaviour to the LSB recomendations but > > many services in Debian don't use this option and return 1 in the case > > I've quotted. This is very problematic for me when I try to use a Debian > >

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-03 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 3 de Julio de 2008, Raphael Hertzog escribió: > I'm reluctant to change the default behaviour of start-stop-daemon at this > point. What do other people think of making --oknodo the default behaviour > and adding a new option to force the current default behaviour (exit with > failure i

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(Cc -devel to seek input) On Thu, 31 May 2007, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Acording to the LSB specifications for init scripts [1]: > > "For all other init-script actions, the init script shall return an exit > status of zero if the action was successful. Otherwise, the exit status > shall be non