Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-11 Thread Miles Bader
Python does seem a very poor choice for this kind of application, given the traditional bloat of a python installation, but I suppose they've made their decision... -Miles -- "... The revolution will be no re-run brothers; The revolution will be live." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-11 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:06:05PM +1030, Ron wrote: > > You've already said you don't have the space for GDB+Python. So file > > a wishlist bug to split gdbserver out to its own package, and I'll do > > that for you happily. > > I haven't seen anyone object to that idea yet, so we seem to have a

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-10 Thread Ron
Ok, let's see ... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:18:18PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30:20AM +1030, Ron wrote: > > I do appreciate, and share, your concern for not bloating the archive > > needlessly, but my concern is balancing that against the needs of small > > Deb

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-21 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Picking some arbitrary messages in this thread to respond to. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30:20AM +1030, Ron wrote: > I do appreciate, and share, your concern for not bloating the archive > needlessly, but my concern is balancing that against the needs of small > Debian systems, where the extra dep

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Ben Hutchings [Sun, Dec 20 2009, 02:26:53AM]: > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: > [...] > > I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was > > already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and > > that's before we save on prun

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-20 Thread Ron
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 02:26:53AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: > [...] > > I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was > > already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and > > that's before we save on

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Jonathan Yu
Ben: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: > [...] >> I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this.  The bloat that was >> already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and >> that's before we save on prun

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 11:17 +1030, Ron wrote: [...] > I don't understand the pushback I'm getting on this. The bloat that was > already added _far_ outweighs the little extra it needs to fix it, and > that's before we save on pruning away libgdb. I don't think I'd be going > out on a limb to sugg

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:15:14PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a > > > gdb stub? > > > > Maybe I'm missing s

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a > > gdb stub? > > Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the particular > case this came to m

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a > gdb stub? Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the particular case this came to my attention: simplicity? The device is amply endowed enou

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 03:30 +1030, Ron wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:34:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > tags 560786 + wontfix > > thanks > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +1030, Ron wrote: > > > Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on > >

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ron
Hi Daniel, On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 09:34:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > tags 560786 + wontfix > thanks > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:22:12PM +1030, Ron wrote: > > Not all machines that it's useful to be able to run gdb on > > also need or want python installed. Can we please make this