Octavio Alvarez:
Question: is it safe to say that systemd doesn't yet support the
full /etc/fstab specification from util-linux [1]?
Yes; it's safe. It's also wrong. But it's quite safe. (-:
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On 21 November 2014 06:38, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/19/2014 06:14 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
On 11/22/2014 12:45 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Of course. That's what I have and the Jessie bootlogd does not give
messages on both consoles.
Or was this bit of openstack support not pushed to jessie?
Thanks
Michal
This is unrelated to OpenStack. And yes, I did work on the issue and
Didier == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org writes:
Didier Systems cross-craded from Ubuntu to Debian are absolutely
Didier not supported, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the
Didier issues you're seeing are in some way related to this.
I've seen both these issues on pure
Le jeudi, 20 novembre 2014, 12.06:45 Sam Hartman a écrit :
Didier == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org writes:
Didier Systems cross-craded from Ubuntu to Debian are absolutely
Didier not supported, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the
Didier issues you're seeing are in
Didier == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org writes:
Didier Steve's suggestions stands though: separated and actionable
Didier bugs for these two issues filed on the corresponding
Didier packages are way more helpful than a general non-sysvinit
Didier init systems are made of
Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org writes:
In that spirit.
The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
I don't know that filing a bug that will be immediately wontfixed will
be helpful.
I don't think
On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote:
The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but I have plans to add
a fstab sanity check to preinst.
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On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió:
On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote:
The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
The behaviour of systemd will not be
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 06:53:27PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote:
The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
The behaviour of systemd will not be
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 01:45:55PM -0800, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
On 19/11/14 21:32, Steve Langasek wrote:
1) the problem with new feature in systemd which considers all
filesystems in fstab vital for system boot and stops boot if they
fail. It's been decided that although it is a change in
On 19/11/14 21:32, Steve Langasek wrote:
1) the problem with new feature in systemd which considers all
filesystems in fstab vital for system boot and stops boot if they
fail. It's been decided that although it is a change in behaviour
that might render some systems unbootable it's
On 11/19/2014 06:14 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and
On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
escriure:
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Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 09.34:22 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 19 November 2014 08:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org
wrote:
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
noticed this issue
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
does not mislead the user into thinking that
Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a
volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a
haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But
mails such as this one are not welcome in Debian. Please assume good
faith, and treat everybody with
On 19 November 2014 16:12, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
Before anything else, Michal: Please remember Debian is a
volunteer-run project. It is sometimes tempting to reply mails in a
haste and making ironic remarks to drive your points further. But
mails such as this one are not welcome
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Release: testing
I had Ubuntu base system on this particular PC some years ago and I
Hah! I’m not the only one then ☺
bye,
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Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
El dl 17 de 11
On 18 November 2014 00:52, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
does not mislead the user into thinking that
El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
escriure:
-- System Information:
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu GNU/Linux testing (jessie)
Release: testing
Codename: jessie
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386
Kernel:
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El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
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Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu GNU/Linux testing (jessie)
Release: testing
Codename: jessie
Le mercredi, 19 novembre 2014, 00.00:48 Michal Suchanek a écrit :
On 18 November 2014 18:57, Jordi Mallach jo...@debian.org wrote:
El dl 17 de 11 de 2014 a les 15:41 +0100, en/na Michal Suchanek va
escriure:
-- System Information:
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu
Package: general
Severity: important
Dear Debian Maintainers,
I tried the alternative init systems (namely upstart and systemd) and
while I think there is some potential in these systems I don't think
they are ready for Jessie.
As basic system component the init system needs to be very
On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
(eg. serial, vga, kms).
Not really... Or at least, not until last summer
On 17 November 2014 18:15, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
(eg.
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
does not mislead the user into thinking that useful boot progress
feedback can be obtained on that terminal.
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