RE: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Carr
> -Original Message- > From: Christian PERRIER [mailto:bubu...@debian.org] > Sent: 07 November 2010 06:44 > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support) > > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > > >

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 7. November 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote: > We're not even able to process installation reports properly as of now > (if not convinced, read -boot), so before even thinking about adding > new stuff (and breakage paths), let's first fix the current one. Adding new cool stuff might

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > I also expressed my regret to not have enough time to work on it myself > (I'm currently trying to get this patch to work though...). That is definitely useful. I'd suggest however to coordinate this in -boot as there seem to be other people working on

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Michael Banck (mba...@debian.org): > > > Do you consider that WPA support is a "fancy new thing" ??? > > > > You're free to do a play on his words, of course. From the point of d-i > > development it would be a new feature, yes. > > Sure, but Christian's words were quite dismissive as w

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/06/2010 06:03 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: > Whining on a mailinglist isn't overly helpful. I agree 100%. But my purpose wasn't at all to be whining, just to express my sadness about this missing feature. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. I also expressed my regret to not have enough time to

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:03:12AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-11-05, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 11/03/2010 01:57 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > >> then, a few > >> months before the release, we start getting suggestions to add this or > >> that fancy new thingy > > Do you consider

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-11-06, Carsten Hey wrote: > * Philipp Kern [2010-11-06 10:03 +]: >> Ubuntu's alternate installer doesn't support it neither. It only applies >> to the netinst case, too, which Ubuntu doesn't offer as prominently. > If one of Ubuntu's installers does support WPA, I guess they also > tr

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Carsten Hey
* Philipp Kern [2010-11-06 10:03 +]: > Ubuntu's alternate installer doesn't support it neither. It only applies > to the netinst case, too, which Ubuntu doesn't offer as prominently. If one of Ubuntu's installers does support WPA, I guess they also translated their WPA related strings. Would

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-11-05, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/03/2010 01:57 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: >> then, a few >> months before the release, we start getting suggestions to add this or >> that fancy new thingy > Do you consider that WPA support is a "fancy new thing" ??? You're free to do a play on h

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/03/2010 01:57 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > then, a few > months before the release, we start getting suggestions to add this or > that fancy new thingy Do you consider that WPA support is a "fancy new thing" ??? With all due respect, I believe that my favorite distribution not having

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-04 Thread Kel Modderman
On Monday 01 November 2010 22:51:36 Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > > On 10/31/2010 03:00 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > > > release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. > > > >

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 12:14:27AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:53:23PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Since most of the system is not translated, having a yet another > > untranslated line is not the end of the world. And I'm afraid that typical > > translations make

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:53:23PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > [1]. Since most of the system is not translated, having a yet another > untranslated line is not the end of the world. And I'm afraid that typical > translations make it hard for even native users of a language to understand > what a

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:47:19PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 06:57:52AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > > > > > Well the patch is dated in 2008, so yes, people should have been quicker > > > voting and working f

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > level of maturity which I expect from something having the brand Debian. My > current idea would be to develop the WPA functionality as far as I can without > the help of others, encourage testing by willing victims ah I mean subjects > ;-) >

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Javier Fernandez-Sanguino (j...@computer.org): > not just translating d-i, but translating the manual, the Release > Notes (which are far from complete) and some other things. Two or > three new strings are peanuts and should not deter a new feature. Thank you for volunteering doing my jo

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Banck
Christian, On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 06:57:52AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > > > Well the patch is dated in 2008, so yes, people should have been quicker > > voting and working for this feature. > > > And this is a growing problem with D

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mark Goldshtein, le Wed 03 Nov 2010 17:58:45 +0300, a écrit : > Sorry, if something like that looks stupid and obvious. It is because > WPA absence for the year 2010 A.D. makes me feeling sad. The quasi-absence of developers in the debian-boot and debian-x teams makes be feeling _very_ sad. Samue

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): >> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:15:01AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER: >> > >> > >>> The Debian Installer team[1

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:58:04 +0100, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > Remember: "Our priorities are our users and free software". Having a > 100% translation target of d-i shouldn't be the main priority. > Congratulations, you just won today's SC#4 quoting contest! Also congratulations for

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
> Please note that this patch is quite likely to add new localized > strings to D-I and I know about an l10n coordinator which will be very > unhappy if new material is bringed in at the very last minute while we > had *months* for bringing it in on time beforehand. Although the effect on translat

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Harald Jenny
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 06:57:52AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > > > Well the patch is dated in 2008, so yes, people should have been quicker > > voting and working for this feature. > > > And this is a growing problem with D-I: the proj

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-03 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > Well the patch is dated in 2008, so yes, people should have been quicker > voting and working for this feature. And this is a growing problem with D-I: the project's life is nearly zero for months at times where the development could happen

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-02 Thread Harald Jenny
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:49:43PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:15:01AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER: > > > > > > >>> The Debian

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release (WPA support)

2010-11-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Harald Jenny (har...@a-little-linux-box.at): > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:15:01AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER: > > > > >>> The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > > >>> release of the i

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-02 Thread Harald Jenny
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:15:01AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER: > > >>> The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > >>> release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. > [..] > >> I was wondering

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-02 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 01.11.2010 13:51, schrieb Christian PERRIER: >>> The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta >>> release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. [..] >> I was wondering if there will be WPA support in D-I for squeeze, as this > No. Nobody did the needed tests

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hi, A Segunda 01 Novembro 2010 16:45:19 Mark Goldshtein você escreveu: ... > There will be an IRC meeting this Wednesday, dedicated to the > installer. Any chance that WPA issue will be discussed and resolved at > last? Actually it was discussed in the last meeting [1] (again?). It was agreed t

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 19:45:19 +0300, Mark Goldshtein wrote: > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > >> On 10/31/2010 03:00 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > >> > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > >

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mark Goldshtein] > There will be an IRC meeting this Wednesday, dedicated to the > installer. Any chance that WPA issue will be discussed and resolved at > last? > > Thanks in advance to all participants! If someone show up to discuss it and do the work, the chances rises. If no-one does, they s

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): >> On 10/31/2010 03:00 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta >> > release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. >> >> Great, th

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > On 10/31/2010 03:00 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > > release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. > > Great, thanks for the huge work. > > I was wondering if there will be WP

Re: Debian Installer 6.0 Beta1 release

2010-11-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/31/2010 03:00 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first beta > release of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze. Great, thanks for the huge work. I was wondering if there will be WPA support in D-I for squeeze, as this was quite frustrat