Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Frank Bauer
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Have you done any actual calculation on this? A quick Google search on SSD write cycles shows more articles debunking this theory than supporting it. Reading specifications of intel's SSD 320 line at the following link:

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Michael Hanke
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 30/09/2012 18:49, Frank Bauer wrote: Why not, my computer upgrade cycles are about 6-8 years and the computer won't be idling all the time - especially considering modern desktop environments running whole database engines

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2012-10-01 13:32, Frank Bauer wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Have you done any actual calculation on this? A quick Google search on SSD write cycles shows more articles debunking this theory than supporting it. Reading specifications of intel's

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 1. Oktober 2012, Michael Hanke wrote: Just a data point: interesting, thanks. what are the main (ssd related) advantages of running a 3.2 kernel instead of the 2.6.32 from squeeze? (I don't want to run 3.2 due to wlan/intel gfx problems, though last time I tried was three

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:37:19PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Montag, 1. Oktober 2012, Michael Hanke wrote: Just a data point: interesting, thanks. what are the main (ssd related) advantages of running a 3.2 kernel instead of the 2.6.32 from squeeze? (I don't want to run 3.2 due to

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 1 octobre 2012 18:26 CEST, Jonathan McDowell nood...@earth.li : what are the main (ssd related) advantages of running a 3.2 kernel instead of the 2.6.32 from squeeze? (I don't want to run 3.2 due to wlan/intel gfx problems, though last time I tried was three months ago, might been fixed

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread shyamal
Frank == Frank Bauer frank.c.ba...@gmail.com writes: Frank Hi, I am considering migrating my Debian testing system to a Frank SSD to speed things up. Since SSD lifetime is severely Frank limited (about 5000 overwrites for consumer grade MLC), I Frank wanted to know beforehand,

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Vincent Bernat In case of ext4 over encrypted LVM, does the kernel have all the discard/trim support? The Debian wiki says that LVM supports trim to declare unused space with lvresize as an example. Does it include unused space inside a logical volume? Yes, but you need to enable it

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-10-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Michael Hanke (m...@debian.org): I'm on an Intel SSD (120GB) since Aug 2009 -- running Debian testing all the time. I do not upgrade daily, but often. I have _not_ done any of the optimizations mentioned on the wiki. I have on average approx 15GB free on the drive. Obviously, I ran a

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-09-30 Thread Frank Bauer
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:15:45PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: If you have 5000 erase cycles, it will run for 13 years if you overwrite it once per day. Do you really expect this device to work until this? Why not, my computer upgrade cycles are about 6-8 years and the computer won't be idling

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-09-30 Thread Игорь Пашев
Relax :-) It is a hardware problem. Just keep doing your regular job till SDD become more robust. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-09-30 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 30/09/2012 18:49, Frank Bauer wrote: Why not, my computer upgrade cycles are about 6-8 years and the computer won't be idling all the time - especially considering modern desktop environments running whole database engines to store config/meta data. Is writing of 160GB/day realistic?

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-09-29 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:26:57 +0200, Frank Bauer wrote: Hi, Hello, I am considering migrating my Debian testing system to a SSD to speed things up. Since SSD lifetime is severely limited (about 5000 overwrites for consumer grade MLC), I wanted to know beforehand, how much writes does my

Re: Debian not suitable for SSD due to apt/dpkg?

2012-09-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:26:57PM +0200, Frank Bauer wrote: I am considering migrating my Debian testing system to a SSD to speed things up. Since SSD lifetime is severely limited (about 5000 overwrites for consumer grade MLC), I wanted to know beforehand, how much writes does my system