Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > I seem to remember some more tech info is in the HN thread: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11390545 Actually it was this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11388418 Re fork, they implemented that in the Windows kernel and

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > As I commented on Dustin's blog, I'm also interested in more technical > details: I seem to remember some more tech info is in the HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11390545 > Some Linux programs will be easy to support,

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Dann
> > Linux/Unix is more than just the syscalls, there's quite a few places > where the Windows model just doesn't match up with the Unix model: > processes, threads, filesystem/VFS semantics, ... > > How does fork() work? How does file locking work with things like > shared libraries in this

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
z...@debian.org wrote: >On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 03:03:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> Quite ingenious really. > >I'm curious about the set of syscalls they've implemented, and in >particular about which non-POSIX (but Linux) syscalls are in that set. >Has anyone seen that list yet? As I commented

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 31, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I think we should. It will help Windows users use less proprietary > software in their daily lives, and my very well work as a "gateway drug" > to 100% Free Software in the long run. Agreed. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 03:03:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Quite ingenious really. I'm curious about the set of syscalls they've implemented, and in particular about which non-POSIX (but Linux) syscalls are in that set. Has anyone seen that list yet? > I wonder if we should start offering

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > This solution does not need to reimplement any library functions, as they can > take everything from the unpacked Ubuntu rootfs and then "just" need to handle > the Linux systemcalls correctly. Quite ingenious really. I wonder if we

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Johannes Schauer
Quoting Paul Wise (2016-03-31 08:42:58) > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > It looks mightily impressive! When I read about this originally I didn't > > find a link with so many details and even screenshots - thanks for that! It > > seems they can even run apt (and thus

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > It looks mightily impressive! When I read about this originally I didn't find > a > link with so many details and even screenshots - thanks for that! It seems > they > can even run apt (and thus dpkg) with this "reversed wine" :D Seems

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Johannes Schauer
Quoting Paul Wise (2016-03-30 19:52:51) > Looks like Microsoft went with a Linux syscall emulation layer for the > Windows kernel: > > http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html if I understand it correctly, then this should indeed solve Eric's original message. It looks

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 30 March 2016 at 14:52, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel > mailing > > list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers > are > > aware

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing >> list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are >> aware of

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing > list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are > aware of it. (There's also the Apt developer's mailing list at the >

RE: RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-29 Thread Eric Mittelette
Thanks Fabian, that make sense, we also having a look at this eric -Original Message- From: Fabian Greffrath [mailto:fab...@debian.org] Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:46 AM To: Eric Mittelette <ericm...@microsoft.com> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RE: Debian p

Re: RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-29 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi there, for my occasional development on Windows I use Msys2 which have Arch's pacman package management system ported to Windows and even provide a huge repository of pre-compiled package. It's not APT, but at least a reasonable packaging system and a bash shell on Windows to begin with. ;)

Re: Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-28 Thread igor80
> I could be useful to create a Debian GNU/ReactOS port to avoid the > proprietary software dependency of a cross-compiled-only port. Really? Wow! -- igor

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
ct: RE: Debian package on Windows IIRC, windowspackager.org created wpkg, which allows for the installation of format 2.0 debs on Windows (Of course, they're meant to contain Win32 binaries), It didn't really catch on though due to the nature of the design of Windows which made it a lot less fe

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
@lists.debian.org; Eric Mittelette <ericm...@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: > I think people in general have concluded that such a port would be > mostly useful only to cross-build, but not to run stuff. I cou

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
<ericm...@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows Hi, Eric Mittelette wrote: > I'm PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at > Microsoft), we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful > process for > C++ on Windows) and we are imaging diff

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Eric Mittelette wrote: > I'm PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at Microsoft), > we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful process for > C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to port > apt-get on Windows. > Porting Apt-Get mean using

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: > I think people in general have concluded that such a port would be mostly > useful only to cross-build, but not to run stuff. I could be useful to create a Debian GNU/ReactOS port to avoid the proprietary software dependency of a

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2016-02-22 at 14:05:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > [ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02/msg4.html ] Inlining parts of that mail here: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:09:18 +, Eric Mittelette

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-22 Thread Josh Max
rom: j...@debian.org > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > CC: ericm...@microsoft.com; debian-apa...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows > > [ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
[ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02/msg4.html ] Hi Eric, I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are