Re: [fedora-arm] Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-04 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they all do custom builds of complete software stacks, it could be said that *if* the free

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: In my experience anyone distributing binaries actually picks a small set of distros and builds for those explicitly, rather than relying on the LSB. Does that mean that it's not actually useful in the real world? I guess in a

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 07:32:18AM +0900, David Rusling wrote: On 06/01/11 01:22, Wookey wrote: As this is a non-trivial amount of work, the question then arises, does anyone care about this enough to actually do the work? Linaro is an obvious organisation that could expend some engineering

Re: [lsb-discuss] Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread Jeff Licquia
On 06/01/2011 07:25 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: so in _that_ regard, the question becomes: are the efforts of the free software community better off being spent elsewhere? and what benefit is there *TO THE FREE SOFTWARE COMMUNITY* of doing LSB for ARM? forget the proprietary

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: In my experience anyone distributing binaries actually picks a small set of distros and builds for those explicitly, rather than relying on the

Re: [lsb-discuss] Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread Jesse Barker
At the risk of overstating the obvious, there are also ABI guarantees at stake here, which in my mind are architecture agnostic. OpenGL applications need to know which bits (API functions) of which core versions can be expected to be resolved during load time and which must be queried through

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-06-01 Thread David Rusling
Steve, thanks, have a poke around and tell me / OCTO what it means to join in, what the costs and benefits are etc... Dave On 06/01/11 22:36, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 07:32:18AM +0900, David Rusling wrote: On 06/01/11 01:22, Wookey wrote: As this is a non-trivial

Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-05-31 Thread Wookey
[Apologies for the wide distibution of this mail (Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora main+arm dev lists, plus linaro and lsb) but it's useful to catch people who care about this issue enough to do some work. Do please bear the distribution in mind when replying, focussing any detailed discussion on

Re: Does anyone care about LSB on arm?

2011-05-31 Thread David Rusling
Wookey, the short answer is 'yes'. The next question is 'who?'.Maybe this can be bolted onto the hard float work, I'll let Konstantinos and Steve respond... Dave On 06/01/11 01:22, Wookey wrote: [Apologies for the wide distibution of this mail (Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora main+arm