Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can create -tiny versions of packages as

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Chris Rutter wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can create -tiny

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:22:12 Glenn McGrath wrote: hmm, im not sure its practical to create extra binary packages, wouldnt it be more effective to exclude files from regular packages as its installed. I was suggesting that the script would create them on-the-fly -- they wouldn't reside

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-18 Thread Joseph Carter
I'm not certain that trying to cram OS config into a kernel config tool is the right idea, but I do agree that the concept is effective. What about a more generalized framework for this sort of thing to build a disk image for a highly customized embedded Debian system? Take a subdirectory and

Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Wookey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed 16 Aug, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Joey Hess wrote: It's been pointed out that emdebian (http://www.emdebian.org/) is essentilly an effort to do just this. [shrink debian to fit handhelds] It is? I use their

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Matthew Franz
2. Generation - I can imagine many different ways of building the operating system image. The one I'll be working on initially is a Snarf 'n' Pick implementation. Basically it will work by snarfing Debian packages and picking subsets of files from the packages. To my

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Matthew Franz wrote: Frank, I think the OS-builder app is a great idea. Would its raw material be pre-compiled debian binary packages or would My first pass at this will be based on snarfing pre-compiled binary packages. Simply QD, but probably useful to a lot of people. it be able

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Matthew Franz wrote: Would its raw material be pre-compiled debian binary packages or would it be able to build the system from source. Unless there were separate embedded .debs, I don't know that the standard binaries would be compact enough to support limited

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Frank Smith
Hi Ben, Ben Armstrong wrote: anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged separately. Actually, a few weeks ago Erik Anderson wrote to tell me: FYI, I just uploaded busybox_0.45-1_i386.deb busybox-static_0.45-1_i386.deb busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes

RE: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Eric Molitor
Ag, evil. If you plan to use busybox upgrade to .46 there are some serious problems with .45 in regards to tar and nfs. On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Frank Smith wrote: Hi Ben, Ben Armstrong wrote: anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged separately. Actually, a

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-16 Thread Erik Andersen
Quoting Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sort of configuration at compile-time would be a useful. Is busybox used anywhere else in Debian? It's curious that busybox isn't packaged separately. debian developer and author/maintainer of busybox hat on For woody, we are creating a new section