Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. Now, if we're really down to 253 packages that use /usr/doc (with no symlink), then maybe it's time. But, unfortunately, that number, 253, measures *claimed* compliance, not actual

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Joey Hess wrote: Chris Waters wrote: - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which all the packages have

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Adam Heath | Um, when was it decided that woody+1=sarge? When was this flamewar? It wasn't yet. aj needed a name for woody+1 and picked sarge as an interim name. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field is not a reliable indication of much of anything. I strongly object Policy says: Policy says doesn't make the packages comply. And you can file all the bugs reports you want,

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Adam! You wrote: Actually, I already did a mass bug filing, on the usr/doc issue(did a grep on Contents-i386, which wasn't fully accurate(other archs, stale data(up to a week or so))). I have seen several of the bugs closed, probably more than half now. I need to do another scan, to see

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:57:37AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Standards-Version 3 : a not FHS compliant package is at most a normal bug Standards-Version = 3: a not FHS compliant package is at most a serious bug This is not correct. You can't change the severity of a bug by twiddling a field

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: List of packages with Standards-Version 3.0 -- snip -- [...] Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gsfonts-other Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gsfonts Guess I should really upload my local

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: ... Standards-Versions aren't release critical. You can put it as Standards-Version: 526.7.8.9.13-Foo.6 if you want. And no matter what I will practice your suggestion and upload my packages with Standards-Version: 526.7.8.9.13-Foo.6.

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:50AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Package: gsfonts Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 91489 Package gsfonts still has at least one file in /usr/doc Package is ready so far and installed locally. But I can't build a new package since

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Standards-Version you have, you still have to follow the FHS, you have to use /usr/share/doc, and if you specify build-dependencies they have to be correct. That means you can file RC bugs on all packages that don't follow the

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Torsten Landschoff wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:50AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Package: gsfonts Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 91489 Package gsfonts still has at least one file in /usr/doc Package is ready so far and installed

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Torsten Landschoff | On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:50AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: | | Package: gsfonts | Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] |91489 Package gsfonts still has at least one file in /usr/doc | | Package is ready so far and installed locally. But I can't

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:52:57PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Uhh, when did that become a must? In 3.5.2 the first paragraph says Probably during the policy/packaging merger. I intend at some point to go through policy and fix all of these confusions. Furthermore, it makes no sense

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Adrian == Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adrian In the source package's `Standards-Version' control Adrian field, you must specify the most recent version number Adrian of this policy document with which your package Adrian complies. The current version number is

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-07 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:57:37AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: but you can't file 1060 RC bugs at the beginning of a freeze. Why would you want to? File 1060 normal bugs before the freeze! (If you must file 1060 bugs at all -- I hope that's not a habit of yours.) If we want, we can adjust the

Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the following steps: - Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS. Policy version 3.0.0.0 was released 30 Jun 1999 and I consider this enough time for every maintainer to switch to at least this

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Adrian Bunk wrote: ... Oliver Elphick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) libpgsql This package is obsolete and should not be included in any release. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP:

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: ... Oliver Elphick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) libpgsql This package is obsolete and should not be included in any release. Please ask the ftp admins to remove the package from unstable (file a bug against ftp.debian.org).

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the following steps: - Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS. Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field is not a reliable

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Arthur Korn
Chris Waters schrieb: (Plus, as a side issue, by a strict reading of the FHS, we should be using /usr/share/menu rather than /usr/lib/menu, which means RC bugs against nearly every package in the system!) :-) /usr/lib/menu is not shareable, since it would be most confusing to have a menu item

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the following steps: - Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS. Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field is not a reliable indication of

menu and FHS (was Re: Finishing the FHS transition)

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:13:26PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: /usr/lib/menu is not shareable Yes, it is. There's a reason why each entry starts: ?package(name) Anyway, that's not really relevent -- /usr/share is for architecture-independent static files. The FHS doesn't grant exceptions

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: If noone has a good argument against this I'll send RC bugs in one week to force the upgrade of the Standards-Version. The packages inetutils, gnumach, hurd and mig are only applicable to the Hurd, and we have not determined yet

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Policy says: -- snip -- In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must specify the most recent version number of this policy document with which your package complies. The current version

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-May-01, 14:27 (CDT), Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Policy says: -- snip -- In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must specify the most recent version number of this policy document with which your package complies. The current version

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Waters wrote: - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which all the packages have made the transition. So sarge at the earliest,

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010506 21:27]: See above: I want to file a RC bug either because a) the package follows a too old policy or For the /usr/doc problem, bugs with severity: normal have already been filed by doogie and joeyh. For these packages, you simply have to change the

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: Didn't we already have this discussion? The Standards-Version field is not a reliable indication of much of anything. I strongly object Policy says: Policy says doesn't make the packages

Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:29:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Chris Waters wrote: - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks. This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition. No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which all