Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Fernando Lemos writes: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Patrick Strasser > wrote: > [...] >> Why not use some simple non-HTTP-protocol on port 80? > > That tends to break transparent proxying. If port 80 is the only one > you have open, chances are you're behind a transparent proxy as well. >

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): >> Ian Jackson writes: >> > The reason why there is a problem with an http submission interface is >> > that suddenly every idiot will think "oh I must write a c

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Patrick Strasser wrote: [...] > Why not use some simple non-HTTP-protocol on port 80? That tends to break transparent proxying. If port 80 is the only one you have open, chances are you're behind a transparent proxy as well. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Ian Jackson am 2011-05-25 13:46: > I wrote: >> Brian May writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): >>> [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] >> >> We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. >> >> Or to

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Russell Coker writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): > Would someone who wants to write a HTTP client bug reporting tool really be > prevented because they have to setup their own server too? That would just result in their mail server being blocked by DSA or owner@bugs

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Russell Coker
There are plenty of cgi-bin scripts that send email via a web interface. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to install one of them on a web server for the purpose of forwarding Debian bug reports. So really anyone who is good at running web servers can setup a HTTP submission method if the

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > The reason why there is a problem with an http submission interface is > > that suddenly every idiot will think "oh I must write a cool ui for > > this". > > But

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): >> So everyone is allowed to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp. But >> only reportbug is allowed to use http? That seems a bit stupid. > > No-one _wants_ to write a fronte

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): > So everyone is allowed to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp. But > only reportbug is allowed to use http? That seems a bit stupid. No-one _wants_ to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp, and doing so as a s

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Bjørn Mork
Brian May writes: > Some don't even have Internet access. So, how do you propose reportbug should handle those? Send a fax? Seriously, what problem do you have that isn't solved by "reportbug --offline --output=foo" ? Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Brian May writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): >> [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] > > We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. > > Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an htt

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): > > [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] > > We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. > > Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http &g

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian May writes ("Re: Getting good bug reports"): > [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http submission interface to the BTS, provided

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-24 Thread Brian May
On 25 May 2011 05:25, Patrick Strasser wrote: > Point 3). Still it's too hard for a real novice which would like to help > to get a bug report not at all out. The starting suggestion for this > thread was to add an HTTP based transport path to get around the MTA > thing. In the mid 90ies I was st

Getting good bug reports

2011-05-24 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Russ Allbery on 2011-05-24 18:55: > Patrick Strasser writes: First, I want to emphasize that I do not at all advocate for a web reporting form. IMO most contributors to this thread do so. I regard the overall process of reporting bugs in Debian very sensible, no need to change in general