Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-09 Thread Marc Haber
On 09 Aug 2003 05:11:39 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ifupdown surely looks bad. Shouldn't someone else take over the package then? Greetings Marc, not feeling fit to take the package, but seriously thinking about a fork -- -- !! No

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. > > > >ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > If you actually dig into the list, you'll find that many of the bugs > with patches fall into the same category as these two. Most of the > rest actually need significant attention

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:25:21PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. > > > >ppp *was* unmaintained,

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:25:27 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no > excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which > doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not > reviewing complicated or

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:40:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? > >And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. > ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:40, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? > >And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. > > ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? >And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested essential features like pppoa and kernel space pppoe su

Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. > >ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of time. When exactly is a package (take ifupdown for

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > It's not like a developer could do anything more, in these two > > That being true still doesn't help non DDs to contribute. Indeed, but it also means that they are not reasons why people should be given accounts. > > case

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Nathanael Nerode) | However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no | excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which | doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not | reviewing complicated or subtle patches.) Once you have man

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:52:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:52:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=&include=patch > > > > See the form at

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 06:25:27PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >glibc is even worse. It has multiple maintainers, and they still don't > >have enough time to chase down all the important bugs, let alone > >insignificant ones like this. > > This is unfortunately true;

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-07 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andrew Suffield wrote: >glibc is even worse. It has multiple maintainers, and they still don't >have enough time to chase down all the important bugs, let alone >insignificant ones like this. This is unfortunately true; glibc seems to be severely broken on a routine basis upstream. Kinda makes m

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy > > > access to packages with patch

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy > > access to packages with patches pending would be a start. > > Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? > >

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy > > access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Or a system > > Try http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy > access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch http://bugs.debian.

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy > access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Or a system Try http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch . -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, li

Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Moin Goswin! > Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Thursday, den 07. August 2003: > > > > > Working on boot-floppies and debian-installer is not realy fruitfull > > > > as non-DD. cvs access goes a long way there. > > > > > > I must have severe reading and