Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ondřej Surý: Also it still doesn't solve the issue the quarrel here is about - you still need some account - in this case a local GitLab instance account (well, Alioth could be used if that's in LDAP) to contribute. I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access to the

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Wise: On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access to the repository always needs some sort of authentication step? Not sure about for http/https/ssh but the git protocol allows for anonymous push access

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access to the repository always needs some sort of authentication step? Not sure about for http/https/ssh but the git protocol allows for anonymous push access and git-daemon

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, at 02:09, Brian May wrote: I have never actually used GitLab, so I can't actually comment on how good it is... Perhaps you should, before you start suggesting thing based on GitLab... ;-) Anyway - GitLab is quite good these days and it has matured[1], but it's a typical

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-20 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 03:06:04PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, at 02:09, Brian May wrote: I have never actually used GitLab, so I can't actually comment on how good it is... Perhaps you should, before you start suggesting thing based on GitLab... ;-) Anyway - GitLab

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only work between

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any project using that feature is

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 avril 2015 19:00 +1000, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au : The pull request exists on github, fine. How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull request? Take a random PR: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/16258 Append .patch to get the patch: curl

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 19 April 2015 at 21:00, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only work between repositories

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 April 2015 at 02:18, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net writes: Have you used github? If not you should: the best position to critique a system from is one of familiarity. If I were to critique only the effects GitHub has for the

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread James McCoy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:27:01AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: The repositories and Git management are the very nice features of GitHub, and there's nothing there data-wise you can't pretty trivially extract. It's just a very nice UI. In fact, joeyh wrote a nice tool[0] that will extract all

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: It's a UI. The UI is really nice. That's why people use it. But lock-in implies more than a really nice UI that people use because it's superior. By lock-in I'm implying vendor lock-in: the customer or user is unable to switch away from the vendor's

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Brian May
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 00:19 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: This is quite frustrating. There's some serious equivocating by GitHub apologists in this discussion: It GitHub better then the open source GitLab? If the answer is Yes, is there any obstacles to trying to improve

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: We're told that GitHub has a raft of features that make it superior, until it's pointed out that those features are GitHub-specific and incompatible with collaborators from outside; then, conveniently, the specialness of those features dwindles to

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull request? Public github repositories do not need a github account to clone. This is quite

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 20 avril 2015 00:18 +1000, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au : Likewise, as an external party Alice can collaborate via ‘git send-email’ or ‘git request-pull’ on an equal footing with any other repo (including GitHub repos). But Bob, having chosen GitHub's proprietary pull requests as

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo,