Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-11 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Obey Arthur Liu dijo [Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03:57PM +0200]: And please don't compare the Summer of Code with Dunc Tank, it's insulting to all the students, mentors and admins involved. Should I remind you all that I'm also a student ? (..long snip...) Not to mention that the GSoC projects

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
Obey Arthur Liu a écrit : Hi folks, ... I am inviting you to debate what you think is cool, what is useful, what is important to Debian, maybe give us pointers to resources or people that could be helpful for the projects. We will try to alter our current rankings to reflect the zeitgeist in

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/04/09 at 12:03 +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: And please don't compare the Summer of Code with Dunc Tank, it's insulting to all the students, mentors and admins involved. Should I remind you all that I'm also a student ? Dunc Tank was about funding working professionals to work on

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03:57PM +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: Dunc Tank was about funding working professionals to work on release-critical stuff that would otherwise have been done exactly the same way. False. They were paid a sum equivalent to a software engineer's salary. False. --

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : That's right. But DDs are free to apply to other projects, as are contributors to other projects free to apply to Debian. DDs are free to go where they want, but I wouldn't be happy with a rule, written or unsaid, that banned DDs outright from Debian. We have a Gnome

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [2009-04-10 15:10]: What could be considered fair is, if DDs are involved as students in GSOC, to give the money to Debian instead of giving it to the students I think this is so unreasonable it's not even funny. So it's okay for non-DD students to

Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/04/09 at 18:05 +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : That's right. But DDs are free to apply to other projects, as are contributors to other projects free to apply to Debian. DDs are free to go where they want, but I wouldn't be happy with a rule, written or unsaid,

Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 April 2009 at 18:05, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: | Lucas Nussbaum a crit : | What could be considered fair is, if DDs are involved as students in | GSOC, to give the money to Debian instead of giving it to the students [...] | That's a novel idea. It's worth discussing, but it's way too late