Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as they're upgraded.  If you run into the case of a package that's been upgraded and not cleaned up its

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Neil Williams
more people involved in helping packaging teams which are openly asking for help? If Debian isn't doing the right things to attract helpers, then there is no solution for the users in this thread who are basically complaining about packages with lots of bugs and not enough manpower. Debian cannot

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 15 2011 00:51:42 Neil Williams wrote: Mike, you missed the sarcasm completely and just went on another rant about two (unrelated) bugs which affect you directly. Guess what - I don't give two flying figs about those two specific issues because they don't affect me. I care about

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 15/01/2011 08:37, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : This would also purge the configuration of packages where I have no wish to do so. I sometimes uninstall packages without purging them, just because I want to keep the configuration around. If you are so concerned about your configuration files,

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 15/01/2011 01:40, Roger Leigh a écrit : Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC) repeatedly run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc and then find out which file is offending, run dpkg -S $file, and then purge it. Because the error message only lists the first offending file,

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 15/01/2011 01:05, Roger Leigh a écrit : This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process. I've already experienced issues with configuration files from uninstalled packages lying around. It wasn't with

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Julien BLACHE
Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: Hi, insserv breaks complex systems. It throws away years of DD work and substitutes a few inane and inadequate rules. It does so In my experience, insserv makes it a lot easier to handle complex systems with a lot of interdependent daemons and

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Chris Carr
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 01:09 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: On Sat January 15 2011 00:51:42 Neil Williams wrote: Mike, you missed the sarcasm completely and just went on another rant about two (unrelated) bugs which affect you directly. Guess what - I don't give two flying figs about those two

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Neil Williams
you want, it appears that nobody else does either. If you can't scratch your own itch within Debian then you need to persuade (not bully) someone else to help provide it within Debian or, as you've done, work around it outside Debian. That is NOT the fault of Debian. Debian works with those who

Getting warned about and contributing to decisions (Re: Why is help so hard to find?)

2011-01-15 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Chris, Chris Carr wrote: Sorry to de-lurk with a tangential question, but how can I as an interested observer subscribe to the conversations where these decisions get made Good question. Subscribe to the PTS for the affected packages[1] and test the versions in unstable and experimental.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On la, 2011-01-15 at 10:10 +, Chris Carr wrote: Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but neither seems to contain discussions about the risks of replacing perfectly good defaults with

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 15 ian 11, 10:10:04, Chris Carr wrote: Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but neither seems to contain discussions about the risks of replacing perfectly good defaults with

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org wrote: Le 15/01/2011 01:05, Roger Leigh a écrit : This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process. I've already experienced issues with

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:48:54AM +, Neil Williams wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:09:58 -0800 Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: On Sat January 15 2011 00:51:42 Neil Williams wrote: Mike, you missed the sarcasm completely and just went on another rant about two (unrelated)

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 15 2011 01:59:06 Julien BLACHE wrote: insserv has issues, but it's still an improvement over the previous situation and, unlike the other new init systems, it's actually backward-compatible. I have no objection to you using insserv. I object to people being tricked into using

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 15 2011 02:48:54 Neil Williams wrote: If the alternative software was maintained within Debian by an active team then maybe the switch could be a choice. If nobody steps up to do it, that choice is not available. 1. insserv Legacy booting IS maintained in Debian. The problem

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Mike Bird Hi, | insserv is also irreversible, and if you restore /etc from | a backup without undocumented magic, insserv will destroy /etc | again. That in my book seriously limits its compatibility. | | For servers which may only be rebooted once a year, a second | saved in boot time is

Skilled manpower vs. grunt work (was: Why is help so hard to find?)

2011-01-15 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: Can the rest of us now actually ask if there is anything we can do to get more people involved in helping packaging teams which are openly asking for help? […] The problem is a lack of manpower in critical teams. That's not new. Is the requirement

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: I indicated one important reason why experienced programmers don't want to work on Debian. They have no desire to spend a year of their life humoring someone with a tenth of their expertise. Tough. […] If

Re: Skilled manpower vs. grunt work (was: Why is help so hard to find?)

2011-01-15 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:33:56 +1100 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: Can the rest of us now actually ask if there is anything we can do to get more people involved in helping packaging teams which are openly asking for help

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Chris Carr ranting...@gmail.com writes: Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but neither seems to contain discussions about the risks of replacing perfectly good defaults with significantly

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: While I have no love for insserv, if you think the whole point of dependency based boot (be it insserv, upstart, systemd) is boot speed, I think you're mistaken. It's a part of the goal, but much more important is actually correctness. Getting the

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Huh. Every system I've upgraded had no problems. I find this strange, since every system that has ever been etch will have at least libdevmapper1.02 which stops insserv from migrating.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 15 2011 18:02:06 Russ Allbery wrote: Judging from further discussion, it looks like the reason why I've never seen this is that I routinely purge deinstalled packages on all my systems and most of the problems are with packages that have been deinstalled but not purged and have

Suggest to purge removed packages with init scripts before squeeze upgrade (was: Why is help so hard to find?)

2011-01-15 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: release-notes Severity: wishlist On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:02:06 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: I find this strange, since every system that has ever been etch will have at least libdevmapper1.02 which stops insserv from migrating. Judging from further discussion, it looks like the

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net writes: On Sat January 15 2011 18:02:06 Russ Allbery wrote: Judging from further discussion, it looks like the reason why I've never seen this is that I routinely purge deinstalled packages on all my systems and most of the problems are with packages that

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Russ Allbery wrote: Judging from further discussion, it looks like the reason why I've never seen this is that I routinely purge deinstalled packages on all my systems and most of the problems are with packages that have been deinstalled but not purged and have obsolete

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 15 2011 18:54:01 Russ Allbery wrote: It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as they're upgraded. If you run into the case of a package that's been upgraded and not cleaned up its obsolete conffiles, and there isn't some reason for that, that's worth

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
On 16.01.2011 03:54, Russ Allbery wrote: It's the responsibility of packages to clean up obsolete conffiles as they're upgraded. If you run into the case of a package that's been upgraded and not cleaned up its obsolete conffiles, and there isn't some reason for that, that's worth a bug

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
On 16.01.2011 05:59, Mike Bird wrote: That test box alone has 48 obsolete conffiles belonging to 19 installed packages. And I'm not sure if current package maintainers would look favorably on bugs filed regarding obsolete conffiles left by previous versions of packages. If you do encounter

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
On 15.01.2011 21:57, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Mike Bird Hi, | insserv is also irreversible, and if you restore /etc from | a backup without undocumented magic, insserv will destroy /etc | again. That in my book seriously limits its compatibility. | | For servers which may only be

Help!

2011-01-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com (14/01/2011): There are lots of packages with old bugs without any comments that are not on that list. Oh, indeed! Crap! I hereby request help for the 167 following packages: ccsm compiz compizconfig-backend-gconf compizconfig-backend

Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri January 14 2011 03:51:48 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek: Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer. You mean like this http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/help_requested? Let's have a look: #

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: On Fri January 14 2011 03:51:48 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek: Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer. You mean like this

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri January 14 2011 13:44:12 Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: The impression I get of Debian is that in order to contribute I need to spend a year or so humoring somebody with a tenth my programming experience. snip (1) sysv-rc upgrade

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ben Hutchings said: Strange, I can't find your ITP for Trinity. That's because he trolls without ever actually doing anything. Don't feed the waste of time. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 09:44:12PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: If that impression is wrong, I'd really like to fix at least two major bugs in Squeeze: (1) sysv-rc upgrade should not bring in insserv and wreck startup on systems

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process. Huh. Every system I've upgraded had no problems.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri January 14 2011 15:08:13 Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Ben Hutchings said: Strange, I can't find your ITP for Trinity. That's because he trolls without ever actually doing anything. Don't feed the waste of time. The problem is not a lack of ITP. Lenny already has

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri January 14 2011 16:07:58 Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC) repeatedly run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc and then find out which file is offending, run dpkg -S $file, and then purge it. I've not looked at the mechanism involved at all, but it does seem

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:52:13PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC) repeatedly run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc and then find out which file is offending, run dpkg -S $file, and then purge it.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process.

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-deb...@yosemite.net): You have no idea what configurations are in use on stable servers. You have no idea how many stable servers you're going to break. You're right. No Debian developer is involved in large institutions or corporations where hundreds of such servers

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Roger Leigh | On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: | Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: | | I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly. | This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to | remove the last traces

Re: Why is help so hard to find?

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri January 14 2011 22:06:21 Christian PERRIER wrote: You're right. No Debian developer is involved in large institutions or corporations where hundreds of such servers are in use. All Debian developers are kids playing on their parents' computer to build a distro, during hacking nights,

Bug#608880: ITP: libgeo-google-mapobject-perl -- code to help manage the server side of google maps api

2011-01-04 Thread Nicholas Bamber
: perl Programming Lang: perl Description : code to help manage the server side of google maps api -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: Debian participating in Google Code-in 2010, we need your help!

2010-11-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
) decided to add a task listing me as a contact, without even talking to me about it before: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/debian/t128985930296 I already got an email from a participant asking for help, which I replied with I don't know what you are talking about. I'm

Re: Debian participating in Google Code-in 2010, we need your help!

2010-11-23 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
a participant asking for help, which I replied with I don't know what you are talking about. I'm very annoyed by this. Please fix it ASAP by removing me from the Contact for this task, and stop referring people to me. This is getting very annoying. I didn't suggest the UDD task subject, I merely uploaded

Re: Debian participating in Google Code-in 2010, we need your help!

2010-11-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
/gci2010/debian/t128985930296 I already got an email from a participant asking for help, which I replied with I don't know what you are talking about. I'm very annoyed by this. Please fix it ASAP by removing me from the Contact for this task, and stop referring people to me. This is getting

Re: Debian participating in Google Code-in 2010, we need your help!

2010-11-23 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, November 23, 2010 10:58, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: The only reason the student who claimed the task contacted you is because your name is kind of all over the place on webpages related to UDD. This is patently false as

Re: Upcoming Bug Squashing Parties to help the squeeze release

2010-10-18 Thread Sheridan Hutchinson
unsubscribe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin2f2ksmy1e54xyju7gqvi=+tke+nq7+s2on...@mail.gmail.com

Debexpo and how you can help

2010-10-08 Thread Asheesh Laroia
Hey all! In the next month, we're all going to get Debexpo running as an alternative to mentors.debian.net. I'm going to revive this project, and I need some help. (I'm cross-posting; I've set the Reply-To header so that replies go the debexpo devel list.) We're going to get it on the web

watch file help

2010-08-21 Thread Chris
Greetings everyone, I am trying to set my debian/watch correctly. The upstream site allows you to download (wget for example) with something like: wget http://www.foo.com/ihave/files/here/foo.tar.gz However, the source code behind URL shows this:

Re: watch file help

2010-08-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 12:07 -0500, Chris wrote: Greetings everyone, I am trying to set my debian/watch correctly. The upstream site allows you to download (wget for example) with something like: wget http://www.foo.com/ihave/files/here/foo.tar.gz However, the source code behind URL

Re: watch file help

2010-08-21 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 12:07 -0500, Chris wrote: Simply having http://www.foo.com/ihave/files/here/foo-(.*)\.tar\.gz in the debian/watch files downloads an html file. Something like: opts=filenamemangle=s/\?format=raw$// \

Re: how to help end-users to increase the life-time of their SSDs

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Tokarev
06.06.2010 02:13, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hi folks. I recently got my first SSD payed by my university and, even though modern SSDs seem to have smart wear leveling algorithms and more and more parts of kernel/userspace support TRIM, I was thinking about what one can do to improve its

Re: how to help end-users to increase the life-time of their SSDs

2010-06-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 10:28 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: - optionally /var/tmp as tmpfs Not an answer to your original question, just a not-so-random observation. /var/tmp is declared by LFS as temporary storage that persists across reboots. It wont be this way if it's on tmpfs obviously.

how to help end-users to increase the life-time of their SSDs

2010-06-05 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi folks. I recently got my first SSD payed by my university and, even though modern SSDs seem to have smart wear leveling algorithms and more and more parts of kernel/userspace support TRIM, I was thinking about what one can do to improve its lifetime. The most obvious things I found were: -

pls help, hppa FTBFS: /usr/lib/libatlas.so.3gf: undefined symbol: __canonicalize_funcptr_for_compare

2010-05-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Everyone, bug report (from myself to myself) in question: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581204 boils down to ImportError: /usr/lib/libatlas.so.3gf: undefined symbol: __canonicalize_funcptr_for_compare and when looking at

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Scheduling, transitions, how to help

2010-04-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam D. Barratt, le Thu 01 Apr 2010 09:57:12 +0200, a écrit : * GNU/kFreeBSD-* The release of these two new architectures looks promising, but they are still far away from full archive coverage. It seems that much could be gained by fixing some key packages. What is the target BTW?

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Scheduling, transitions, how to help

2010-04-01 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:57:12AM +0200, Adam D. Barratt wrote: * Tcl/Tk 8.4/8.5 Tcl 8.3 will be replaced by newer versions. This transition is currently staged in experimental. Note that this will imply soon a good bounce of NMUs for experimental. If your packages depends

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote: *Precisely* what changes do you need for that architecture - is it really a different architecture from armel? (Answers to debian-embedded please.) hi neil, firstly thank you for the informative post, esp. the history

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-11 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:46:57 + Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote: *Precisely* what changes do you need for that architecture - is it really a different architecture from armel? (Answers to

Re: need help of Octave language expert

2010-03-10 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi Thomas, On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:34:33 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: I'm cc'ing debian-devel, so people see that there is an answer. If whoever wants to continue the discussion, please strongly consider dropping debian-devel -- the list is noisy enough. Sorry for additional noise. Directly

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:20:04PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: yeah - i'd like to know how to do this, too. i installed buildd (and wannabuild) but there appears to be some manual steps

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:08:30 + Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: (When replying, please shorten the CC list, preferably only to the debian-embedded list.) a bit like openembedded. It's much easier to not do things like OE and to actually build incrementally, putting

Re: Very newbe help/pointers required about building a distribution from scratch

2010-03-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:52:57 + Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote: has anyone actually done this Yes. Me - I was cross-building the entire chain too. It took me the best part of a year to get through 200 packages. i.e. SERIOUSLY reconsider precisely how many packages you want to

need help of Octave language expert

2010-03-09 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Octave language at all, so I request a help of Octave language expert. ii octave3.0 1:3.0.5-7+b1 GNU Octave language for numerical computatio ii texmacs 1:1.0.7.3-3WYSIWYG mathematical text editor using TeX f I attach problematic files mentioned in the above messsages. If someone finds

Re: need help of Octave language expert

2010-03-09 Thread Thomas Weber
Hi, I'm cc'ing debian-devel, so people see that there is an answer. If whoever wants to continue the discussion, please strongly consider dropping debian-devel -- the list is noisy enough. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:06:06PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: Hi all, I, a maintainer of TeXmacs,

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-10 Thread Asheesh Laroia
yOn Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: Asheesh Laroia asheesh at asheesh.org writes: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: I, a maintainer of TeXmacs, have got an FTBFS bug#551254 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551254 I temporarily remove a problematic patch but

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-10 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 10 February 2010 at 22:26, Asheesh Laroia wrote: | yOn Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | | Asheesh Laroia asheesh at asheesh.org writes: | On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: | I, a maintainer of TeXmacs, have got an FTBFS

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 February 2010 at 22:26, Asheesh Laroia wrote: | yOn Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | | Asheesh Laroia asheesh at asheesh.org writes: | On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: | I, a maintainer of TeXmacs, have got an FTBFS bug#551254 |

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-10 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
a \eof symbol ] and b) one comment line was not actually commented out. Two correct individual files are attached. Can you (or Atsuhito) try with those? I tried them quickly and it worked fine! Thank you for your help. Also thank you Asheesh for your kind advices. Regards

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-09 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Asheesh Laroia asheesh at asheesh.org writes: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: I, a maintainer of TeXmacs, have got an FTBFS bug#551254 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551254 I temporarily remove a problematic patch but clearly it is not a real fix. A plugin

need help of R language expert

2010-02-08 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I, a maintainer of TeXmacs, have got an FTBFS bug#551254 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551254 I temporarily remove a problematic patch but clearly it is not a real fix. A plugin of R seems not to work anymore. I don't know R language at all so request a help of R

Re: need help of R language expert

2010-02-08 Thread Asheesh Laroia
especially in case he can help, since he has used some R. Take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551254 . Atsuhito, An R-y friend pointed me toward http://developer.r-project.org/parseRd.pdf which documents changes to the .Rd format. From what I gather, Rd

Bug#568424: ITP: hlbrw -- assistant to help make new rules to HLBR

2010-02-04 Thread Joao Eriberto Mota Filho
: Bash Description : assistant to help make new rules to HLBR HLBRW is an acronym to Hogwash Light BR Watch. The intent is provide a tool to help make rules to HLBR (http://hlbr.sf.net). In others words, HLBRW was made to be used by HLBR users needing make new rules (it will require some

Help with Firmware issue

2009-12-31 Thread chrisr
To whom it may concern I hope you can help us as we really desperate to solve a problem we currently facing with a product we imported from China that has a problem with the firmware The product is a 3.5 incn Hard disk media player that you can use to watch movies, download music , photo's

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-22 Thread Roger Leigh
[please don't top-post] On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:31:16PM +0700, Muhammad H Hilman wrote: Wow, it's work but, must I change the code on my application that needed filelock? because, filelock code on that application stated as ubuntu command (just filelock) as far as I know debian command

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-21 Thread Muhammad H Hilman
Wow, it's work but, must I change the code on my application that needed filelock? because, filelock code on that application stated as ubuntu command (just filelock) as far as I know debian command on filelock is (filelock-create) can you tel me what's the different between (filelock-create)

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, maybe apt-get install liblockfile1 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:16:02PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: maybe apt-get install liblockfile1 Possibly, but lockf() and fcntl() are usually better, and are present in libc. -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `'

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-12-18, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes: The upstream version number is 0.5.2-rc3 which is invalid for a non-native package No, it's fine for the upstream version string to contain a hyphen. See Debian policy §5.6.12.,

Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Hi all, I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of 1.2.3rc4. Any clues on how to do this? If I just use: package-(.*).tar.gz

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: uscan complains that it can't find the current version (1.2.3rc4) on the server. I'm currently doing: version=3 opts=filenamemangle=s/-// \ http://example.com/files/ package-(.*).tar.gz Erik --

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ruben Molina
El vie, 18-12-2009 a las 14:14 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo escribió: I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of 1.2.3rc4. Hi

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes: Any clues on how to do this? If I just use: package-(.*).tar.gz For a start, you should replace the allows-empty match ‘(.*)’ with one that requires at least one character ‘(.+)’. That's orthogonal to the behaviour you're describing.

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Ben Finney wrote: For a start, you should replace the allows-empty match ‘(.*)’ with one that requires at least one character ‘(.+)’. Noted. Thanks. Can you give us the full URL so that we can test our proposals before posting them?

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes: I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop the dash from the version number Why do you need to drop the hyphen? A hyphen is perfectly valid in

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of 1.2.3rc4. Any clues on how to do this? If I

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes: http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-0.5.2-rc3.tar.gz Okay. The current list at URL:http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/ shows the following tarball files: specimen-0.5.1.1.tar.gz specimen-0.5.1.tar.gz

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+deb...@mega-nerd.com writes: The upstream version number is 0.5.2-rc3 which is invalid for a non-native package No, it's fine for the upstream version string to contain a hyphen. See Debian policy §5.6.12., where the hyphen is explicitly listed as one of the valid

Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: # Current version from Cheese Shop. opts=uversionmangle=s/-([a-z]+\d+)$/~$1/ \ http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-(.+).tar.gz Erm. Ignore the comment line; clearly I cut-and-paste from one of my own packages and failed to

[Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-16 Thread Muhammad H Hilman
Dear Debian developers I run DOVIS 2.0 (docking application) in cluster server using Debian Sarge Then I got *Can not get init lock!* notification here is the screenshoot [image: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7643/35869453.png] I already asked the developers about this problem They said I

Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Langasek
[Please note that this question is more appropriate for debian-user, not debian-devel.] On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:51:39AM +0700, Muhammad H Hilman wrote: Dear Debian developers I run DOVIS 2.0 (docking application) in cluster server using Debian Sarge Then I got *Can not get init lock!*

Help needed: upgrade/replace and dpkg-divert

2009-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
/texdoc.notluatex - luatex ships a link /u/b/texdoc - /u/b/texdoclua New status should be: - texlive-base ships /u/b/texdoc - ../../share/texmf-dist/.../texdoc.tlu - no diversion in luatex - luatex does no ship any texdoc files Can anyone help me here? Best wishes Norbert

Preparing lecture about Debian. Help needed.

2009-10-28 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Hi there. I'd like to ask you guys for some help. Here in Moscow State University there is a course Software maintenance in Linux Distribution. It is dedicated to general question of software packaging. As example they use rpm-based community repository Sisyphus (related to AltLinux distribution

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