Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-05-28 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi David, and thanks for your reply! On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 04:28:08PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > The self-inflicted joy of avoiding a transitional package (see also the > other thread about transitional packages on d-d@ I should comment) and > of too strict dependencies (just because

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-05-27 Thread David Kalnischkies
Hi, On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 10:00:29PM +0300, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: > We determined that the reason for users getting libqt5gui5-gles installed > is the qt5-default package. We removed it in October 2020 because it is no > longer needed. But the latest version of that package that ever existed

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-05-16 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi again David and all! I want to ask for the help again. We determined that the reason for users getting libqt5gui5-gles installed is the qt5-default package. We removed it in October 2020 because it is no longer needed. But the latest version of that package that ever existed had this

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-30 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi David, and thanks for your thorough reply and explanation! On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:15:01PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > To refine this: apt¹ picks the first alternative which is either: > 1. already installed and satisfying as is > 2. already installed, but needs an upgrade to satisfy

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-30 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 04:53:50PM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2021-01-27 16:15:17) > > I suspect that's not really the case - that instead apt tools might pick at > > random. > > no, apt does not pick at random. The apt solver prefers the first

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues (2021-01-27 16:53:50) > Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2021-01-27 16:15:17) > > I suspect that's not really the case - that instead apt tools might > > pick at random. > > no, apt does not pick at random. The apt solver prefers the first > alternative. With

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-27 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Hi, Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2021-01-27 16:15:17) > I suspect that's not really the case - that instead apt tools might pick at > random. no, apt does not pick at random. The apt solver prefers the first alternative. > It is my understanding that build daemons _ignore_ secondary entries >

Re: Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer (2021-01-27 15:09:41) > So most packages now have an alternative dependency like libqt5gui5 > (>= 5.x) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.x). The strange thing is that *some* > users upgrading from stable or reinstalling packages [1] get the -gles > variant

Help required to determine why some packages are being installed

2021-01-27 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi! tl;dr: we the Qt maintainers need help to find out why some users upgrading from stable / reinstalling packages get libqt5quick5-gles instead of libqt5quick5. Long story: some months ago my team mate Dmitry Shachnev managed to get two flavours of Qt: the normal one with OpenGL support and