On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 07:27:52 +0200, Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 08:09:03AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
One example of such a Debianism is the support of the keyscript=
option in /etc/crypttab that is not available on Debian systems
running systemd with no viable
On Wednesday, 3 de September de 2014 16:21:31 Svante Signell escribió:
[...]
should be allowed, and I'm trying to find out how many of debian users
and developers are interested in working together with me on such a
solution. Best would be to have an option in the installer (hidden by
[...]
I
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 01:07:20 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
On Sep 03, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
Please stop using graphs showing how various teams have forced systemd onto
users' systems as if it is somehow a democratic endorsement of the outcome.
I am not sure about
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 08:09:03AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
One example of such a Debianism is the support of the keyscript=
option in /etc/crypttab that is not available on Debian systems
running systemd with no viable alternatives available.
And again, what you are refering to is keyscript=
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 16:03 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Svante Signell dixit:
It would be nice to have the same init system:sysv-core, as well as the
same default desktop:mate-desktop-environment (including accessibility
enhancements), for all arches: Linux, kFreeBSD and Hurd :-) If
In other news for Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Svante Signell has
been seen typing:
Some food for thought about systemd:
... I thought we'd all agreed to stop bringing up tired arguments that
nobody but the systemd MUST DIE crowd really wants to hear anymore.
You might have seen
Hi!
I'm wondering here... Lets suppose I NEED to use sysvinit, with Debian 8.
If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of
systemd as my INIT?
If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still
remains around...?
Also, why not have a system like
I'm sure we've been over this many times already.
On 03/09/14 13:24, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of
systemd as my INIT?
Yes.
If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still
remains around...?
That's up to
Hi Svante,
On Mittwoch, 3. September 2014, Svante Signell wrote:
Some food for thought about systemd:
You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14
but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15
or this http://boycottsystemd.org/
Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming
On Sep 03, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more
important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third
link: Boycott distros that use systemd.
And I strongly encourage them to do this: we aim
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:45 -0400, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi Svante,
On Mittwoch, 3. September 2014, Svante Signell wrote:
Some food for thought about systemd:
You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14
but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15
or this http://boycottsystemd.org/
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:11:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 03, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more
important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third
link: Boycott distros
On Sep 03, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysvinit-core+systemd-shimshow_installed=onwant_legend=onwant_ticks=onfrom_date=2014-01-01to_date=hlght_date=date_fmt=%25Y-%25mbeenhere=1
Please stop using graphs
El mié, 3 de sep 2014 a las 4:07 , Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it
escribió:
On Sep 03, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
rejected. I hope a Blend would be a more constructive approach. I'm
thinking sysvinit would be the easiest 'flavour' to implement for
Actually, I think it’s the hardest one.
All others will be task selections run after debootstrap.
Changing the
On 09/02/2014 13:15, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Oh, and afterwards ensure systemd is not re-added. The
prevent-systemd-* package set can do this in three steps,
although I don’t currently see even prevent-systemd-running
(Conflicts mostly with systemd-sysv) being accepted, so
you’d have to
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 13:15 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
rejected. I hope a Blend would be a more constructive approach. I'm
thinking sysvinit would be the easiest 'flavour' to implement for
Actually, I think it’s the hardest one.
All
Svante Signell dixit:
It would be nice to have the same init system:sysv-core, as well as the
same default desktop:mate-desktop-environment (including accessibility
enhancements), for all arches: Linux, kFreeBSD and Hurd :-) If possible,
this could be an option in the advanced menu of the
Hi Steven,
On So 31 Aug 2014 02:20:08 CEST, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:46:28 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
[...] only way to do that now is to install with the installer, getting
systemd-sysv as PID 1, and later install sysvinit-core, systemd-shim
etc?
I've been
Am 01.09.2014 12:42, schrieb Mike Gabriel:
as I am currently working on a thinclient environment for X2Go which
needs such an alt-init approach beyond wheezy, I will be happy to
help-out with sponsoring and testing.
Just curious: Why does X2Go/your thinclient environment need an
alternative
Hello,
On 01/09/14 11:42, Mike Gabriel wrote:
as I am currently working on a thinclient environment for X2Go which
needs such an alt-init approach beyond wheezy, I will be happy to
help-out with sponsoring and testing.
Great! I was quite sure there will be users who need such a setup for
On Mo 01 Sep 2014 13:10:21 CEST, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
[...]
I'm going to have a read over ITP procedure, mentors.d.n and Blends
documentation and then I will get back to you.
Great. Please do!
Mike
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Hi,
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:46:28 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
[...] only way to do that now is to install with the installer, getting
systemd-sysv as PID 1, and later install sysvinit-core, systemd-shim
etc?
I've been dreaming of #758116 (allowing to select Debian Blends
selection during
Hello,
I'm about to install Debian Jessie/testing on a brand new (powerful)
computer and don't want to have systemd running as PID 1. Is the only
way to do that now is to install with the installer, getting
systemd-sysv as PID 1, and later install sysvinit-core, systemd-shim
etc?
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To
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com (2014-08-29):
I'm about to install Debian Jessie/testing on a brand new (powerful)
computer and don't want to have systemd running as PID 1. Is the only
way to do that now is to install with the installer, getting
systemd-sysv as PID 1, and later install
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