Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 08:53 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > The primary one I'm unhappy with is its deleting part of the upstream > > > tarball with (AFAIK) no warning and no control. (That is, if upstream > > > have a debian dir, it gets nuked, r

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 08:53 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > The primary one I'm unhappy with is its deleting part of the upstream > > tarball with (AFAIK) no warning and no control. (That is, if upstream > > have a debian dir, it gets nuked, rather than us collaborating on it). > > That's a fea

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 14:25 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > This wiki page still misses a "Disadvantages of new format" > > section. > > > > It's a wiki, feel free to add it. I know some people unhappy with the > > new > > format but I do

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 20, Alexander Wirt wrote: > source 3.0 (quilt) is still missing tools to make it working out of the box. > If you quilt not only in debian packages its fucking annoying that you need > to change to patch of your patches from patches/ to debian/patches depending > on what you are working on

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 14:25 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > This wiki page still misses a "Disadvantages of new format" > section. > > It's a wiki, feel free to add it. I know some people unhappy with the > new > format but I don't know many technical disadvantages. The primary one I'm unh

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi Alexander. Excerpts from Alexander Wirt's message of Sáb Fev 20 10:07:55 -0200 2010: > Alexander Wirt schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: (...) > > > > >http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#WhyshouldIconvertmypackageto3.0.28quilt.29format.3F > > > > > And the last thing I want to

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Things would be much easier for starters if dpkg would ship its own patch > helpers like push, pop and create patch. A 3.0 format which is working out of > the box without installing quilt and without the need to set QUILT_PATCHES > would be a real bene

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:25:14 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already use a > > patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in dire need > > of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, converting > > dpatch-based packages to q

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Alexander Wirt
Alexander Wirt schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > Mike Hommey schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > > > wrote: > > > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wro

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Alexander Wirt
Mike Hommey schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > > wrote: > > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wro

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source > > > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (na

converting from dpatch to quilt (was: Misc developer news (#21))

2010-02-20 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already > > use a patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in > > dire need of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, > > converting dpatch-based packages to quilt is

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > wrote: > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber writes: > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already use a > patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in dire need > of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, converting > dpatch-based packages to quilt is a total waste of manpower. This ig

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source >> > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)". Have

No usable upstream for uscan watch file, DEHS status (was: Misc developer news (#21))

2010-02-19 Thread Ben Finney
Joachim Wiedorn writes: > What is with deactivated watch files, because upsteam is dead? > > For a short time I had this case with the package d4x: upstream > homepage is deleted, there is no more upstream development. There is also the set of packages where the upstream files are available, but

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-19 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >  As of the time of writing, DEHS is only 45 watch files away from the >  1 milestone!. Out of them, only 7480 packages are up to date with >  regard to upstream. What is with deactivated watch files, because upsteam is dead? For a short time I had this ca

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-19 Thread Jonathan Yu
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >  As of the time of writing, DEHS is only 45 watch files away from the >  1 milestone!. Out of them, only 7480 packages are up to date with >  regard to upstream. It is worth noting that not all packages need to be kept up to date with

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source > > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)". Have you updated your own > > packages already? > > Why should

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)". Have you updated your own > packages already? Why should I? Greetings Marc -- ---