Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Anthony Towns | On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 03:56:21PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | * Anthony Towns | | On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: | | Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions, | | Do you realise what that means? It

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:01, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: This has nothing to do with boot-floppies. It is apt-setup, which is run from base-config. Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure if all that was still there with the new debian installer. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 03:30:10AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Well, the first (only!) time they will install apt/dpkg on a system is during the dbootstrap in debian-installer. I'd object very strongly if such a question were asked by d-i. Debconf is doable, but it'd have to why would

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Friday, November 22, 2002, at 02:48 AM, sean finney wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 03:30:10AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Well, the first (only!) time they will install apt/dpkg on a system is during the dbootstrap in debian-installer. I'd object very strongly if such a question were asked

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions, Do you realise what that means? It means: I want everyone to end up with the same system. Which either means, I'm not interested in having Debian support all

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Anthony Towns | On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: | Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions, | | Do you realise what that means? It means: I want everyone to end up with | the same system. Actually not. It means «it should be

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions, and asking about if the user wants dialogs warning them of non-free is not needed to install the system. and i guess that's where we disagree. if i wanted

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Anthony DeRobertis | The installer must already have the user set up his sources.list. The | old boot-floppies asks a question about the use of non-free software; This has nothing to do with boot-floppies. It is apt-setup, which is run from base-config. boot-floppies/d-i is what gets run

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: One way to explicitly turn them on --- which would not bug users who don't want it --- would be to install a package. The package could work similar to apt-listchanges. oh yeah, i just remembered, check out the vrms package,

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:01:05PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Good idea. We should add an 'apt-cache alternatives packagename' as | well. I've seen many «we should add X», while few people seem to actually do what they suggest. right, because we're brainstorming here :) if this were a

Re: NF Compromise - Alternatives Nagging + planned removal date warning

2002-11-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 03:56:21PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Anthony Towns | On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: | Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions, | Do you realise what that means? It means: I want everyone to end up