Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-16 Thread allomber
Osamu Aoki wrote: 2. command are executed under sh -c to enable new environment, Menu documentation is not clear about how command are to be executed. I have made a study of the problem (http://people.debian.org/~ballombe/wmbugs, tes backquote). Part of the problem is that many window-manager

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:24:54AM +0800, Arne Goetje wrote: I suffer from the same problem, too. I'm using chinese, english and german. However, the problem does not get fixed by changing the locale all the time... this should not be done anyways. Yes. IMHO the local setting should

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-15 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 However, this does not work for asian input methods. Especially the asian IMs are the ones which depend on the locale. They shouldn't do it. That's why I suggest my way. I have one UXTerm for English which to not activate IM. I can have

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-14 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 13 December 2003 14:28, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:21:25PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 12:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: does this mean different input methods? Yes. Actually, uxterm under ja_JP.UTF-8

SCIM (was: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu)

2003-12-14 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just a quick suggestion: have you tried SCIM as an IM? http://www.turbolinux.com.cn/~suzhe/scim/ it supports CJK and Unicode. In fact you can use a UTF-8 locale, like en_US.UTF-8 and input any CJK char, plus unicode sequences into any unicode aware

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:21:25PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 12:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: * UTF-8 console with English locale * UTF-8 console with Japanese locale Why are these different? Try man man, ls -l or date, you get different answers. locale is not just

Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, We all know how to set up localized environment through shell environment variables. There is even helper packages language-env. (Or KDE etc can be started with locale set by kdm.) But I never liked them since I get locked into a single locale. So how can we elegantly set multilingual

Re: Nice multilingual environment with Debian menu

2003-12-12 Thread Joe Drew
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 12:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: * UTF-8 console with English locale * UTF-8 console with Japanese locale Why are these different? It isn't really laid out in the document linked; does this mean different input methods? -- Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just