Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-09-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Essentially, *everything* stays in git from upstream to distributed releases to debian work and releases and also to downstreams. There's no import of release tarballs because they are in

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 at 22:28:52 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Best practices for Git repository layout? - git-buildpackage documentation is closest to that I would have to disagree here, the git-buildpackage default layout is far too Debian-centric. By naming the Debian and Upstream branches

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Adam Borowski writes (Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: git://foo.bar.org/meow#debian At least, neither git clone, merge nor fetch understand that syntax. They could and should, however, be updated to do so

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): That's not the problem being discussed here. The signature is fine. The problem is that while Joey may think that his repository is completely DFSG-free, it's the current job of ftp-master to actually check

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Josef Spillner
In data lunedì, 16. di agosto 2010 12:35:29, Ian Jackson ha scritto: : Adam Borowski writes (Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: git://foo.bar.org/meow#debian At least, neither git clone, merge nor fetch

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Roger, On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:28:52PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [..snip..] Best practices for Git repository layout? - git-buildpackage documentation is closest to that I would have to disagree here, the git-buildpackage

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Since this is open for discussion, some comments about my take on some of the discussed points: ftp-team is concerned about doing license checks across the entire git archive Colin points out that we're in the same situation with

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I can see that this could be a legitmate cause for concern, especially since the history is essentially immutable and if tainted will remain so unless it's deliberately excised and the history is altered. However, is this a problem in reality, or just

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Josef Spillner
Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in the same tree. (It's a shame that there isn't a syntax for git clone which checks out a particular branch.) The --branch option to git-clone is going to

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in the same tree. (It's a shame that there isn't a syntax for git clone which checks out a

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 00:10 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in the same tree. (It's a shame that

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 00:10 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: This is easy: you just publish two trees,

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Giacomo A. Catenazzi writes (Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): I think there are three usual use of the sources: - developers/bug trackers/... - users: to check and to learn the sources - admins: who need to recompile/backport/.. sources Using git for the last two groups seems

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 20:27:24 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: One issue with 3.0 (quilt) is that when you check it out when it's maintained in a VCS, you have two choices: commit the .pc directory and files, or leave it out and then have to run some magic [...] - Why don't you just check in with

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes: Thanks for this very detailed notes! Can you please also upload them as attachment to the Penta event at http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/691.en.html ? I've uploaded the notes as an attachment to the scheduled event inside Penta. They

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [100811 05:27]: If you're implementing 3.0 format, please don't hard-code the extensions that you know will be found in source packages, because as we add additional files listed in *.dsc, we may add other types of files. Please be carefull with adding new

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: source.debian.org is working on importing source packages into a Git repository and storing the history as one revision per new source package upload. That gives a 404. source.debian.net doesn't, but gives you a page with as full

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread James Vega
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: source.debian.org is working on importing source packages into a Git repository and storing the history as one revision per new source package upload. That

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure that I missed

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery | After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new | source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that | discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure | that I missed things. Other participants, please add

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes (Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): * Part of Joey's motivation is that if you look at GitHub, the people using it a lot consider Git to be a source package format, I've been doing that for some non-Debian work. It turns out to be incredibly convenient, if you're

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Russ Allbery | After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new | source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that | discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure | that I

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 08/11/2010 06:47 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: Russ Allbery writes (Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF): * Part of Joey's motivation is that if you look at GitHub, the people using it a lot consider Git to be a source package format, I've been doing that for some non-Debian work

Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure that I missed things. Other participants, please add any additional bits that I