Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-08 Thread David Claughton
On 07/06/11 14:16, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 07/06/2011 14:36, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs,

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-07 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule put back the upstream-provided files (because I want

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-07 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 07/06/2011 14:36, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files,

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-07 at 12:54pm, Vincent Danjean wrote: On 05/06/2011 07:39, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Vincent Bernat
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule put back the upstream-provided files (because I want not only minimal required build routines

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Joerg Jaspert
I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build dependencies on doxygen and graphviz, since upstream now ships the generated documentation Definitely not the prefered thing to do, imo. Do

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule put back the upstream-provided files (because I

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside autotools-generated files, then autogenerate myself, and in the clean rule

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-05 at 09:48am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream provided tarballs, then put aside

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2011, 11:03 +0200 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: You need to ensure that (package in main. contrib/non-free are different) - you can build everything you ship inside main, - the thing you ship in your package is what the shipped source will end up producing when

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread David Bremner
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:49:14 +0200, Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org wrote: Non-text part: multipart/signed if I do regenerate the files for shipping (or don’t ship them in the binary packages), is it ok to leave the upstream-generated files in the .orig.tar.gz, even though I have no hard

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Joachim Breitner] if I do regenerate the files for shipping (or don’t ship them in the binary packages), is it ok to leave the upstream-generated files in the .orig.tar.gz, even though I have no hard guarantee that they are built from these sources (assuming I have no reason to assume that

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 09:48am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-06-05 at 05:39am, Vincent Bernat wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:54:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What I do is use upstream

Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi fellow hackers, I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build dependencies on doxygen and graphviz, since upstream now ships the generated documentation Feels wrong to me to redistribute

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build dependencies on doxygen and graphviz, since upstream now ships the generated documentation Feels

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Samstag, den 04.06.2011, 14:10 +0200 schrieb Gergely Nagy: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build dependencies on doxygen and graphviz, since

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org [110604 14:22]: It's better to build the pre-generated files from source in case you need to modify the source. It's easier to just modify for example configure.ac instead of modifying it and figuring out how to rebuild the pre-generated files, especially

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes: * Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org [110604 14:22]: It's better to build the pre-generated files from source in case you need to modify the source. It's easier to just modify for example configure.ac instead of modifying it and figuring out how to

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org writes: Am Samstag, den 04.06.2011, 14:10 +0200 schrieb Gergely Nagy: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-04 at 11:29am, Russ Allbery wrote: Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes: * Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org [110604 14:22]: It's better to build the pre-generated files from source in case you need to modify the source. It's easier to just modify for example configure.ac

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 14:10 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: (Provided that said action does not cause unwanted side effects, like the documentation being out of date, because upstream forgot to regenerate them before distribution - but that falls under the upstream to not be a moron above ;) I see

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:54:00PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 14:10 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: (Provided that said action does not cause unwanted side effects, like the documentation being out of date, because upstream forgot to regenerate them before

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 16:16 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:54:00PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 14:10 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: (Provided that said action does not cause unwanted side effects, like the documentation being out of date,

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Paul Wise
I'm leaning towards regenerating all mechanically generated files (including autotools stuff). I think it helps us live up to our promises (SC items 1-4, DFSG item 2). As an example of what I mean; the game naev was proposed to be added to Debian. Looking at the images I noted that some of them