On 11/8/05, Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > This is the (long awaited) report from the DevJam (Debian Java > Meeting) from Oldenburg (September 23 2005)[0]. You can find other > reports at the SkoleLinux Wiki[1] or an article by Mark Wielaard at > LWN[2]. > > At DevJam several Java people from different distributions meet for > the first time. This way there was the possibility to talk about how the > different distributions currently handle java packages. Furthermore > there are several discussions how the distributions can join efforts in > their task of maintaining java packages. > > We discussed the available toolchain (compiler, runtime > environments, tools) for free java available. Both from an upstream > point of view and what is the best approach to integrate them. > Discussion happened if we should have the default compiler and > runtimes and how we can make it easier for users to switch between > different java environments. > > Mark Wielaard provided an overview about the current state of GNU > classpath and which parts are currently missing and where to go with the > new 1.5 features (generics-branch) > > Andrew Haley (upstream of gcj) gave an overview about the state of aot > (ahead of time) compilation of java code with gcj and which tools are > available for packagers. Gary Benson gave a talk about the caveats of > aot compiling of java code during packaging and how he solves some of > the problems in fedora packaging. > > All over the days there happended discussions between people of debian > java and other distributions about various topics of interest ... > > Dalibor Topic explained his experience with JCP and the difficulties > we have to understand, their (SUNs) fear and the difficulties they have > to understand our motivations for free software. > > One of the needs of distributions for schools like skolelinux is that > free java just has to work. This is currently not the state as there are > missing tools (like keytool) in the free toolchain as well as missing > implementations in GNU classpath. This way it is still hard to > completely use free java for education without the possiblity that > something breaks. > > There were discussions how this situation could be improved. First of > all the integration of free java in the distribution and selective > runtime usage for programs should be implemented by tools like > java-config or find_jvm. This way packagers can ensure that a program > really works with his configured free runtime without any > problems. Another point is to improve the upstream toolchain so its > easier for GNU classpath developers to get an overview over what is > missing in the code or only implemented as a stub. As there is stuff > missing in GNU classpath, priority of implementing functionality was > also discussed. > > I'm very sorry for the long delay of the report. Thanks for reading. > > People: > o Wolfgang Baer (Debian) > o Gary Benson (RedHat) > o Daniel Bornkessel (SuSE) > o Rene Engelhard (Debian) > o Kurt Gramlich (DebianEdu, Skolelinux) > o Andrew Haley (RedHat) > o Matthias Klose (Ubuntu) > o Michael Koch (GNU Classpath, Debian) > o Pablo Pita > o Petteri Rty (Gentoo) > o Christian Thalinger (CacaoVM) > o Dalibor Topic (Kaffe) > o Arnaud Vandyck (Debian) > o Jeroen VanWolffelaar (Debian) > o Rene Wagner (OpenEmbedded) > o Mark Wielaard (GNU Classpath) > Sorry if I forgot someone... > > [0] http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam > [1] http://skolelinux.de/wiki/FreeJava/Meeting050923 > [2] http://lwn.net/Articles/152664/ > > - -- > .''`. > : :' :rnaud > `. `' > `- > Java Trap: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDcN0i4vzFZu62tMIRAl0NAJ4mea9w/9S9jrA892UzZ1doD2u+RQCgjKJb > TZf0OB28V4ltd3BE+/ETE08= > =7R1D > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
-- Gerardo Curiel Linux User # 374459 Geek By NaTure,LiNuX By ChOiCe,DebiAn of CoUrsE <___-----!!!!!!Java RuLeS!!!!!!-----___>