Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 08:11 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > The firmware-linux-free maintainer has verified that identical binaries > > can be built from source, but as you well know not all of the required > > cross-compilers are packaged in D

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > The firmware-linux-free maintainer has verified that identical binaries > can be built from source, but as you well know not all of the required > cross-compilers are packaged in Debian. Does that mean that firmware-linux-free should move to

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear FTP team, I would like to help processing the NEW queue. You can see at the following URL some of the reviews that I did in the past as part of my "peer review" proposal. - https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=one-copyright-review;use

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:44:41AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > So, shall we contact Lucas to tell him the good news that there is a new > member > in the FTP team ? There's a bit of process and no one gets rights right away. I'm not the one who makes these decisions, I just work on the team.

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 02:47:46PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit : > > We do always look for new members of the ftpteam, please refer to > Ganneff's postings to all sorts of mailing lists on how to join the team. > It's quite an important team, and more help is always welcome. Hi Paul, if it i

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > I would welcome clearer rules to decide what is strictly required to be > > built > > from source. In particular, I would welcome something like "The maintainer > > decide

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I would welcome clearer rules to decide what is strictly required to be built > from source. In particular, I would welcome something like "The maintainer > decides, and can be overruled by the Technical Comittee if needed". What > follows

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Thorsten Alteholz
Hi Raphael, On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote: What's unpredictable is that your package might be refused not for the addition of the NEW binary but for because debian/copyright is not good enough for current standards of the ftpmasters while it was ok at the time it got accepted the fi

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2013-12-27 at 17:04 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > [Offlist] Only not... > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > I would welcome something like "The maintainer > > decides, and can be overruled by the Technical Comittee if needed". > > That is what we have now, as usua

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Paul Wise wrote: > > the unpredictability of when a source package goes to NEW (that is, > > when the list of binary packages changes), > > That is entirely predictable and under the control of the Debian > package maintainer since it only changes when the maintainer updates >

Re: On building everything from source.

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Wise
[Offlist] On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I would welcome something like "The maintainer > decides, and can be overruled by the Technical Comittee if needed". That is what we have now, as usual other contributors will obviously question decisions made where they consider

On building everything from source.

2013-12-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 09:36:33AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > > > Building as much as possible from source at package build time should > > be the norm not the exception, otherwise the build process for that > > source will bitrot and we will n