Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
Thijs wrote: >On Saturday 5 January 2008 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> As you might expect (as I was the requester for this feature) I'd >> *really* prefer the former option. My initial reasoning for it is that >> I want to make it immediately visible to sponsors if a package has >> suppressed li

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Saturday 5 January 2008 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote: > As you might expect (as I was the requester for this feature) I'd > *really* prefer the former option. My initial reasoning for it is that > I want to make it immediately visible to sponsors if a package has > suppressed lintian warnings. If

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> This might be too much DWIM, but... supposed lintian would, by default, >> report the number of suppressed warnings, but only if the person >> running it is not the maintainer? Lintian could use the same lo

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On la, 2008-01-05 at 13:43 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > As you might expect (as I was the requester for this feature) I'd > > *really* prefer the former option. My initial reasoning for it is that > > I want to make it immediately visible to sponsors

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On la, 2008-01-05 at 13:43 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > As you might expect (as I was the requester for this feature) I'd > *really* prefer the former option. My initial reasoning for it is that > I want to make it immediately visible to sponsors if a package has > suppressed lintian warnings. If

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Russ wrote: > >* Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > >* Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. > >Which should we do? As you might expect (as I was the requester for t

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11253 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'd really like to not have to make this decision myself. I'd like to get > opinions and see if a consensus emerges. I personally always run lintian > with -iI --show-overrides, so I'm clearly not the target audience for this > feature one way or the ot

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:28 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > > > > * Don't show the N: line by default and p

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 08:55:06 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Currently on dpkg I have 4 N: lines: one per deb + one for the > > > .dsc. That clutters the output a bit too much to my taste. And ideally > > > it should be at the end of the output

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. My first reaction would have been supp

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:21:54AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> If you put a config.cache file directly in the debian directory, you >> probably know what you're doing and lintian shouldn't be warning about >> it. That tag is designed to catch garbage

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Russ Allbery wrote: > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. How about counting them and output one N: line per invocation /

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. I read a lot of people complain that the N: lines clutter the output: lintian's colored output helps distinguishing clutter or the more important errors from the harmless ones.

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:21:54AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > And yes, none of these are overrides to paper over lintian bugs... :) > I dunno, I could make the argument that several of those are lintian bugs. > *grin* > O: samba source: configure-generated-file-in-source debian/config.cache

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > E.g., this: > > N: samba_3.0.28-2.dsc overrode 4 warnings > N: winbind_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 3 errors, 2 warnings > N: smbfs_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 2 warnings > N: samba-common_3.0.28-2_amd64.deb overrode 1 warning > N: samba_3.0.28-2_am

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: >> After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error >> that was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I >> added a line of output to the default lintian output saying if an

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:30:09PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that > was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a > line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package > overrides erro

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package overrides error or warning tags. What a

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Currently on dpkg I have 4 N: lines: one per deb + one for the > > .dsc. That clutters the output a bit too much to my taste. And ideally > > it should be at the end of the output (or at the beginning) but not > > spread in the output. > > I was going t

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:30:09 -0800 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that > was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a > line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package >

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree. Although I think that it would be better if there could be a > single line indicating overrides on everything that got scanned by > lintian. Hm, that's another option. That's kind of hard to do with the current lintian architecture, I think,

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008, Luk Claes wrote: > > * Show the N: line with a count of overrides per package by default and > > provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. > > > > * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. > > > > Which should we do? > > We

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 22:30 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that > was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a > line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package > overrides error or wa

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Russ Russ Allbery wrote: > I'd really like to not have to make this decision myself. I'd like to get > opinions and see if a consensus emerges. I personally always run lintian > with -iI --show-overrides, so I'm clearly not the target audience for this > feature one way or the other. Here ar

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, and there are 1759 unused overrides in the archive in 369 packages. > lintian -i will tell you about unused overrides. We do fix > false-positive bugs! lintian -I, rather. (Display info tags.) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
After a recent problem with a package with a fairly egregious error that was overridden, hurting the ability of the sponsor to notice it, I added a line of output to the default lintian output saying if any package overrides error or warning tags. As I sort of suspected at the time, someone else h