Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kernel-* o

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:43:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alterna

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kernel-* o

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Ryan Underwood
Hi, On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kern

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Nov-03, 13:47 (CST), Keegan Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Surely these won't all show up in the same Packages file...if you're > > running GNU/KFreeBSD, it will be a FreeBSD kernel, right? Why would the > > Linux and H

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kernel-* o

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alternative kernels in debian become > more popular, is th

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When I search for packages, I think I'd prefer (assuming I want > to see all kernel- type packages), I'd prefer kernel-linux-*, > kernel-hurd-*, kernel-freebsd-*, etc. Instead of trying to cram that into package names, would it not be more appropriat

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.06.0243 +0100]: > > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alternative kernels in debian become > > more popular, is there a potential for confusion in the future? > [...] > Martin Kraaf

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alternative kernels in debian become > more popular, is there a potential for

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:13:28AM -0600, Ryan Underwood wrote: > > > Before that realization, it seemed like the type of random cruft that > > sometimes gets pulled in on dist-upgrade; a name change would help > > alleviate that initial perc

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:37:24PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > > Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > In what situation would the linux-kernel-headers package be needed > > > seperate from libc? > > > > Ths iss

kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:13:28AM -0600, Ryan Underwood wrote: > Before that realization, it seemed like the type of random cruft that > sometimes gets pulled in on dist-upgrade; a name change would help > alleviate that initial perception, IMO. Why not libc6-linux-headers? I'm in two minds wh

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:23:30PM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > It does not need to. Feel free to propose a patch to document this > > more clearly (I don't really want to rename it again...) > > Add something like this to t

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > It does not need to. Feel free to propose a patch to document this > more clearly (I don't really want to rename it again...) Add something like this to the description: These headers are not used to compile kernel modules,

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Ryan Underwood
Hi, On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:05:20AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > >> So your "substantive reason" is: "The name of the new package is > >> poorly chosen."? - I don't think so, it describes the contents rather > >> well, doesn't it? > > > Well, the package contains the header files approp

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:37:24PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In what situation would the linux-kernel-headers package be needed > > seperate from libc? > > Ths issue is not whether it is needed separately from libc-dev, the > issue is that it c

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Herbert Xu
Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In what situation would the linux-kernel-headers package be needed > seperate from libc? Ths issue is not whether it is needed separately from libc-dev, the issue is that it comes from a different upstream source and thus is best handled in a separa

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 08:23:14PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I don't know whether this package needs to match the kernel version or >> > not, but if not I think the name is poorly chosen. >> So yo

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 08:23:14PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know whether this package needs to match the kernel version or > > not, but if not I think the name is poorly chosen. > > So your "substantive reason" is: "The name of the n

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-03 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry this message go to the poster instead of the list. > There have always been some kernel headers in libc6-dev, they've just been split out into a separate package now. Several of these headers are referenced by headers provided by glibc

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-03 Thread Otto Wyss
Sorry this message go to the poster instead of the list. > > > There have always been some kernel headers in libc6-dev, they've just > > > been split out into a separate package now. Several of these headers > > > are referenced by headers provided by glibc which would break those > > > headers i

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 04:03:17PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 09:17:39PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:21:14AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > Since when does the package libc6-dev depend on linux

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-03 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:18:29PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > I don't know whether this package needs to match the kernel version or > > > not, but if not I think the name is poorly chosen. > > > > It does not need to. Fe

Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers

2003-11-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > I don't know whether this package needs to match the kernel version or > > not, but if not I think the name is poorly chosen. > > It does not need to. Feel free to propose a patch to document this > more clearly (I don't reall