Bug#1077569: ITP: golang-github-containerd-platforms -- Go package for handling platform type

2024-07-29 Thread Shengjing Zhu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Shengjing Zhu X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-containerd-platforms Version : 0.2.1-1 Upstream Author : containerd * URL : https://github.com/containerd

Bug#1065664: ITP: smallerc -- single-pass C compiler for 16- and 32-bit platforms

2024-03-08 Thread Stephen Kitt
Description : single-pass C compiler for 16- and 32-bit x86/MIPS platforms Smaller C is a simple single-pass C compiler with support for most of C89 and C99. It targets 16- and 32-bit x86, and MIPS, on DOS, Windows, Linux, and older versions of macOS. . Smaller C is primarily useful for building DOS

Bug#1037489: ITP: libqt6gui6-gles -- The QtGui module extends QtCore with GUI functionality for GLES platforms.

2023-06-13 Thread Leonardo Held
-clause, GFDL-NIV-1.3, Apache-2.0, CC0-1.0, FTL, Hybrid-BSD, Boost-1.0, W3C, Unicode, libpng, brg-endian, ICC Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : The QtGui module extends QtCore with GUI functionality for GLES platforms. libqt6gui6-gles is intend for embedded devices that support the OpenGL ES

Bug#1035055: ITP: firmware-imx -- Firmware binary blobs needed on NXP i.MX platforms

2023-04-28 Thread Manuel Traut
: LA_OPT_NXP_Software_License_v42 Description : Firmware binary blobs needed on NXP i.MX platforms i.MX Firmware including firmware for VPU, DDR, EPDC, HDMI, DP (Display Port), and SDMA To build a working u-boot for i.MX8* at least the DDR train binaries from NXP are needed. More details are available in this

Bug#1020905: ITP: pystray -- Python library that allows creating system tray icons on multiple platforms.

2022-09-28 Thread Claudius Heine
: Python Description : Python library that allows creating system tray icons on multiple platforms. This python library allows you to create a system tray icon. It allows specifying an icon, a title and a callback for when the icon is activated. The icon and title can be changed after the icon

Re: Help needed with a dh_shlibs failure on non amd64 platforms

2022-07-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 at 09:29:54 +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > All libraries (eg libns3-bridge.so.36.1) that it cannot find are part of the > package. They are added to the debian/libns3.36/DEBIAN/shlibs Independent of the dh_shlibdeps failure that was already diagnosed, if these libraries are pub

Re: Help needed with a dh_shlibs failure on non amd64 platforms

2022-07-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Martin Quinson, le lun. 04 juil. 2022 09:29:54 +0200, a ecrit: > dpkg-shlibdeps -Tdebian/libns3.36.substvars > debian/libns3.36/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libns3-wimax.so.36.1 x86_64-linux-gnu is only valid for amd64. In ./debian/rules: -DCMAKE_INSTALL_RUNSTATEDIR=/run -DCM

Help needed with a dh_shlibs failure on non amd64 platforms

2022-07-04 Thread Martin Quinson
yet (cmake checks on files created by the script), so I cannot use the plain classical cmake build in debian/rules. I did my best to mimick the behavior of `dh --buildsystem=cmake` but I have a strange failure on non-amd64 platforms: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ns3 The build, tests

Bug#978653: ITP: bazel-platforms -- Bazel Platforms

2020-12-29 Thread Olek Wojnar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Olek Wojnar * Package name: bazel-platforms Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Google Inc. * URL : https://github.com/bazelbuild/platforms * License : Apache-2 Programming Lang: Settings Description : Bazel

Re: Bug#963615: ITP: jakarta-annotation-api -- Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms

2020-06-25 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 25/06/2020 à 22:29, Kyle Edwards a écrit : > Speaking as one of the CMake developers, we sometimes make breaking > changes during our RC cycles, and don't freeze the interface until the > official .0 release. There's a reason our RCs don't typically go into > production distros, and there is th

Re: Bug#963615: ITP: jakarta-annotation-api -- Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms

2020-06-25 Thread Kyle Edwards
On Thu, 2020-06-25 at 22:19 +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > I'm not sure to understand what bothers you. In this case the final > version will be nearly identical. The JakartaEE APIs consist > basically > in the JavaEE versions that have been stable and in use for years > with > the base package ren

Re: Bug#963615: ITP: jakarta-annotation-api -- Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms

2020-06-25 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 24/06/2020 à 16:40, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > Given how long some packages stay in milestone status (some for > six years!) I’d prefer for there to be an actual 2.0.0 release > first before this can enter Debian. I'm not sure to understand what bothers you. In this case the final version wil

Re: Bug#963615: ITP: jakarta-annotation-api -- Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms

2020-06-24 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Version : 2.0.0~RC1 Given how long some packages stay in milestone status (some for six years!) I’d prefer for there to be an actual 2.0.0 release first before this can enter Debian. bye, //mirabilos -- tarent solutions GmbH Rochusstraße 2-

Bug#963615: ITP: jakarta-annotation-api -- Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms

2020-06-24 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Description : Annotations for common semantic concepts in the Java SE and Jakarta EE platforms Jakarta Annotations defines a collection of annotations representing common semantic concepts that enable a declarative style of programming that applies across a variety of Java technologies. This

Bug#963577: ITP: golang-zx2c4-wireguard-wgctrl -- Package wgctrl enables control of WireGuard interfaces on multiple platforms.

2020-06-23 Thread Leo Antunes
Programming Lang: Go Description : Package wgctrl enables control of WireGuard interfaces on multiple platforms. Package wgctrl enables control of WireGuard devices on multiple platforms. . wgctrl can control multiple types of WireGuard devices, including: - Linux kernel module devices, via

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2020: Platforms

2020-03-17 Thread Utkarsh Gupta
Hi Kurt, On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:14 PM Kurt Roeckx - Debian Project Secretary wrote: > The platforms for all 3 the candidates are now avaiable at: > https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/platforms/ You might mean: https://www.debian.org/vote/2020/platforms/ :) Best, Utkarsh

Bug#945834: ITP: trisycl -- Generic system-wide modern C++ for heterogeneous platforms with SYCL from Khronos Group

2019-11-29 Thread Mo Zhou
heterogeneous platforms with SYCL from Khronos Group Seemed to me that intel is going to use SYCL for both their FPGA and the GPUs[1]. So I think it could be interesting the investigate the sycl implementations. An informative diagram about SYCL implementations: https://github.com/illuhad

Bug#941405: ITP: ruby-tty-screen -- Ruby library that detects terminal screen size for many platforms

2019-09-29 Thread Gabriel Filion
terminal screen size for many platforms tty-screen implements terminal screen size detection which works on Linux, OS X and Windows/Cygwin platforms and supports MRI, JRuby and Rubinius interpreters. It is a component of the TTY Toolkit. This library is required by ruby-tty-reader, which in the end

Bug#915021: ITP: memkind -- user-extensible heap manager for heterogeneous memory platforms

2018-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
manager for heterogeneous memory platforms The memkind library is a user extensible heap manager built on top of jemalloc which enables control of memory characteristics and a partitioning of the heap between kinds of memory. While arbitrary user control is possible, built-in characteristics include

Bug#899161: ITP: golang-github-kardianos-service -- Run go programs as a service on major platforms.

2018-05-19 Thread Eric Dorland
Description : Run go programs as a service on major platforms. service will install / un-install, start / stop, and run a program as a service (daemon). Currently supports Windows XP+, Linux/(systemd | Upstart | SysV), and OSX/Launchd. . Windows controls services by setting up callbacks

Bug#858544: ITP: fpm -- build packages for multiple platforms (deb, rpm, etc) with great ease and sanity

2017-03-23 Thread 陳昌倬
Lang: ruby Description : build packages for multiple platforms (deb, rpm, etc) with great ease and sanity The goal of fpm is to make it easy and quick to build packages such as rpms, debs, OSX packages, etc. . fpm, as a project, exists with the following principles in mind: . * If

Bug#802805: ITP: otto -- easy development and deployment for cloud platforms

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Stender
deployment for cloud platforms Otto detects your application type and builds a development environment tailored specifically for that application, with zero or minimal configuration. If your application depends on other services (such as a database), it'll automatically configure and start

Bug#769373: ITP: ruby-notifier -- send system notifications on several platforms

2014-11-12 Thread Balasankar C
notifications on several platforms Notifier gem can be used to send system notifications on several platforms with a simple and unified API. Currently supports Growl, Libnotify, OSD, KDE (Knotify and Kdialog) and Snarl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/28/2014 01:10 AM, Tom H wrote: >> Just to name a few: >> - getting rid of the ugly LSB headers > > Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The "Short-Description" and > "Description" LSB fields are useless, but I don't find Debian's LSB > headers and Gentoo's squiggle-delimited stanzas any mor

default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:28:56 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/20/2014 09:02 PM, Tom H wrote: Thanks for your answer and apologies for the delay in responding but my $dayjob's been keeping me very busy. >> What features does sysvinit+openrc have that sysvinit+sysv-rc+insserv >> doesn't h

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/24/2014 04:29 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the >> decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys flamewar >> yet-again bashing OpenRC just for fun" or something similar (but >>

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Dear Kevin, Kevin Chadwick writes: > The benefit that Linux and even firefox etc. has gained from OpenBSD's > practically paranoid bug fixing as well as finding the bugs for all the > platforms it's userland still runs on especially in compiler tools > should be realised

Balance of portability and maintenance burden (Re: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Hey Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > That's correct. However, the problem with kFreeBSD is that I - as a > package maintainer - have to invest extra time to make sure my > packages don't FTBFS on these architectures as otherwise my packages > wouldn't be allowed to migrate to testing.

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/23/2014 03:29 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the >> decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys >> flamewar yet-again bashing

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 23, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Marco and yourself are *a way* off topic. Please at least have the > decency to rename the subject of the tread to "systemd fanboys flamewar > yet-again bashing OpenRC just for fun" or something similar (but > preferably: don't just do that in this list, and avo

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Kevin Chadwick contributed: > Perhaps before this thread spirals out of control I should should also mention this has been discussed on this very list already, though before I was enrolled and the following response went unreplied to. On the other hand and I doubt of sig

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: > One sample usecase where they dont't: "the system is wedged / overcommitted > and I need to terminate some services; guess I'll start another ten processes > to do that". Yeah, right. > > I'll be nice to everybody else here and not enumerate

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Kevin Chadwick: > Regex works just fine for me. > One sample usecase where they dont't: "the system is wedged / overcommitted and I need to terminate some services; guess I'll start another ten processes to do that". Yeah, right. I'll be nice to everybody else here and not enumerate any othe

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/21/2014 03:37 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > mkdir -p /run/openrc > touch /run/openrc/softlevel > > and then it still doesn't work as expected: > > root@howl:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/rsyslog start > * WARNING: rsyslog is already starting > > root@howl:/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/rsyslog stop > *

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
milar (but preferably: don't just do that in this list, and avoid replying about anything related to OpenRC, since we all know what type of non-productive content it's going to be). On 02/23/2014 09:04 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Well. OpenRC was up for discussion as the de

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
n one system but not another increasing forking, reducing eyefall, collaboration etc. and perhaps want a simpler solution. The benefit that Linux and even firefox etc. has gained from OpenBSD's practically paranoid bug fixing as well as finding the bugs for all the platforms it's userlan

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Marco d'Itri contributed: > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? If it was available I would use it but wouldn't be switching cgroups on or would be switching them off even if I hadn't bothered

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: > > Kevin, I don't think you understand the reasoning behind this. Again, > > the problem the init system has to solve here is being able to track a > > process with a 100% accuracy, so whatever automated mechanisms you have > > configured when

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:53:51 +0100 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Kevin, I don't think you understand the reasoning behind this. Again, > the problem the init system has to solve here is being able to track a > process with a 100% accuracy, so whatever automated mechanisms you have > configure

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:45:10PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/23/2014 07:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > >> wrote: > >> > >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old > >> days, but we shouldn't

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 08:50:13PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysv-rc&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 > > sysv-rc wins... > > With

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:43:14PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Since you aren't a user nor are going to be a user of openrc, I don't > see why you feel the need to critique it, especially on debian-devel > where the majority of subscribers are just not interested. Well. OpenRC was up for disc

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/23/2014 07:36 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? > > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc&show_installed=on&

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/23/2014 07:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old >> days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. > > But you aren't planning on running openrc

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:47:44PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 02/23/2014 12:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? > > No, and I don't see any compelling reason why I should.

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/23/2014 12:32 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old >> days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. > > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? No, and I don't see any compelling reason why I should. W

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? Who is? Seriously, would you mind stepping forward? http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_da

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 21 Feb 2014, at 12:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > I agree and understand that this was the way to go back in the old > days, but we shouldn't be using that on current setups. But you aren't planning on running openrc at all, are you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-22 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Kevin, I don't think you understand the reasoning behind this. Again, > the problem the init system has to solve here is being able to track a > process with a 100% accuracy, so whatever automated mechanisms you have > configured when certain situations occur, they

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 11:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > previously on this list hero...@gentoo.org contributed: > >>> And grepping through the output of "ps" or similar is not what >>> I would consider reliable and robust either. >> >> Nod. grepping `ps` is what we should avoid at all cost. > > All cos

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list hero...@gentoo.org contributed: > > And grepping through the output of "ps" or similar is not what > > I would consider reliable and robust either. > > Nod. grepping `ps` is what we should avoid at all cost. All cost? While I like OpenRC and thanks to Gentoo for it and

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: >>> So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to >>> track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable >>> and hacky? >> >> I bet you are going to tell me

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: >> So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to >> track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable >> and hacky? > > I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way to > track the state

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to > track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable > and hacky? I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way to track the state of a ser

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 04:20 AM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: > OpenRC needs a proper directory structure in /run/openrc to track the > status of services. It is handled by init.sh and friends, you may need > to hack that. So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to track the state of a

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On 20/02/14 19:37, Ondřej Surý wrote: > I have split openrc into openrc and openrc-sysv moving the conflicting > parts to openrc-sysv on my system, and it install just fine If sysv-rc's invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d should be treated as generic glue shared by multiple inits (which they probably shou

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread heroxbd
Hey Ondřej, Ondřej Surý writes: > I have split openrc into openrc and openrc-sysv moving the conflicting > parts to openrc-sysv on my system, and it install just fine, but running > script with /sbin/openrc-run needs: > > mkdir -p /run/openrc > touch /run/openrc/softlevel > > and then it still d

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014, at 17:39, Thomas Goirand wrote: > There's of course dependencies in OpenRC. You have the choice: either > you keep the LSB headers, either you write it the OpenRC way (IMO, > prefered...). In OpenRC, you just use functions of the openrc-run > "interpreter". For example: Well,

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > On 02/20/2014 15:28, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Also, we have an ALIVE UPSTREAM TEAM, and an evolving project, which is >> IMO important (is there anyone still working on sysv-rc apart from a >> few Debian maintainers? my understanding is: we're alone now...). > Doesn't

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > On 02/20/2014 09:57, gregor herrmann wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:30:44 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> That package does currently depend on >>> perl, though, which isn't appropriate for an essential package. >>> ... The dependency is because >>> deb-systemd-helper

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/20/2014 10:45 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le jeudi, 20 février 2014, 22.28:56 Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> On 02/20/2014 09:02 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> What features does sysvinit+openrc have that >>> sysvinit+sysv-rc+insserv doesn't have? >> >> Just to name a few: >> - getting rid of the ug

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 02/20/2014 15:28, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/20/2014 09:02 PM, Tom H wrote: >> What features does sysvinit+openrc have that sysvinit+sysv-rc+insserv >> doesn't have? > > Just to name a few: > - getting rid of the ugly LSB headers > - cgroup supports to kill processes I'm curious: does OpenR

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 20 février 2014, 22.28:56 Thomas Goirand a écrit : > On 02/20/2014 09:02 PM, Tom H wrote: > > What features does sysvinit+openrc have that > > sysvinit+sysv-rc+insserv doesn't have? > > Just to name a few: > - getting rid of the ugly LSB headers They might be ugly, but they encode the d

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/20/2014 09:02 PM, Tom H wrote: > What features does sysvinit+openrc have that sysvinit+sysv-rc+insserv > doesn't have? Just to name a few: - getting rid of the ugly LSB headers - cgroup supports to kill processes - rc_hotplug (a hotplugged service is one started by a dynamic dev manager when

default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Tom H
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:19:30 +0900, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen writes: >> >> It's probably better to just contribute your changes to the sysv-rc >> version and so make that one able to manage openrc in addition to the >> others it already knows how to. No point in forking it. > >

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/20/2014 02:10 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Do people use all those runlevels? As much as I know, there's only 4 in use (using names of OpenRC here, since OpenRC has named runlevels): - shutdown (runlevel 0) - recovery (runlevel 1) - reboot (runlevel 6) - default (often, everything else, but m

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:52:12 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > On 02/20/2014 09:57, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:30:44 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> ... The dependency is because > >> deb-systemd-helper uses a bunch of modules that are not currently in > >> perl-core (File::

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 02/20/2014 09:57, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:30:44 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> That package does currently depend on >> perl, though, which isn't appropriate for an essential package. >> ... The dependency is because >> deb-systemd-helper uses a bunch of modules that

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:30:44 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > That package does currently depend on > perl, though, which isn't appropriate for an essential package. > ... The dependency is because > deb-systemd-helper uses a bunch of modules that are not currently in > perl-core (File::Path, File::B

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Russ Allbery
hero...@gentoo.org writes: > Forking was a decision made by me in the early phase of packaging > OpenRC. At that time I referred to the way file-rc handled update-rc.d > as in > sysvinit: /usr/share/sysvinit/update-rc.d > A central package providing update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d is nice. Thou

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread heroxbd
Hi Tollef, Tollef Fog Heen writes: > It's probably better to just contribute your changes to the sysv-rc > version and so make that one able to manage openrc in addition to the > others it already knows how to. No point in forking it. Forking was a decision made by me in the early phase of pac

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand > How come? I just took what was in the sysinit package! Or probably, what > you are talking about is new features, which I should merge it back into > the OpenRC version? It's probably better to just contribute your changes to the sysv-rc version and so make that one able to m

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Thomas Goirand contributed: > So, systemd is still using /etc/rc?.d. Could you tell exactly what it > uses out of /etc/rc?.d, and what for? Does it only needs to see them as > S??script-name in runlevel 2 or 4 (or whatever it uses...)? > > If systemd needs links in /etc/rc

Press updates [Was: Re: default init on non-Linux platforms]

2014-02-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:45:12PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > are you aware that media are already quoting your blogpost as official > > announcement of next Debian codename? > > > > Nah, wasn't aware =) I blame Neil, I thought he still w

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, The Wanderer: > > Nah, wasn't aware =) I blame Neil, I thought he still was a release > > manager ;-) Any reason, not to make it official? =) > > Well, back in 2002 there was a probably-joking sort-of decision that > "zurg" should be the codename of the release where the Hurd and *BSD > ports

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/19/2014 11:53 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: > I suspect the right thing would be to share one implementation of > update-rc.d(8), invoke-rc.d(8) and possibly service(8) between all > supported init implementations, provided by either src:sysvinit or > src:init-system-helpers. Surprisingly, "serv

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/19/2014 10:47 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 19.02.2014 00:52, schrieb Russ Allbery: >> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: >> >>> They *HAVE* to be provided by the active init system. They are an >>> impedance matching layer (aka stable API) used by maintainer scripts to >>> interface with

Re: New debian "codename" (Was: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 17:09, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 19 February 2014 16:05, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 16:57, The Wanderer wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA512 > >> > >> On 02/19/2014 10:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > >> > >> > On 1

Re: New debian "codename" (Was: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-19 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 19 February 2014 16:05, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 16:57, The Wanderer wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 02/19/2014 10:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: >> >> > On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> > >> >> Dimitri, >> >> >> are

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 19 February 2014 15:57, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 02/19/2014 10:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > >> On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> >>> Dimitri, > >>> are you aware that media are already quoting your blogpost as >>> offi

New debian "codename" (Was: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 16:57, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 02/19/2014 10:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > > On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > >> Dimitri, > > >> are you aware that media are already quoting your blogpost

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/19/2014 10:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> Dimitri, >> are you aware that media are already quoting your blogpost as >> official announcement of next Debian codename? > > Nah, wasn't a

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On 19/02/14 15:09, Thomas Goirand wrote: > First, yes, OpenRC uses /etc/runlevel, with the folders below that being > the *names* of the runlevel (which IMO is a way more user friendly than > just numbers). FYI, we have: shutdown=0, recovery=1, reboot=6, and > everything-else=default. So we do have

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 19 February 2014 15:28, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Dimitri, > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 12:57, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: >> On 19 February 2014 11:22, Neil McGovern wrote: >> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:37:08PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McG

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Ondřej Surý
Dimitri, On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, at 12:57, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 19 February 2014 11:22, Neil McGovern wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:37:08PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > >> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/19/2014 10:44 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > I'd like to add that switching to openrc breaks the SysV/LSB support in > systemd. Openrc doesn't use the /etc/rc?.d/ directories to create the > symlinks which signal if a service is active for a given runlevel. > (those symlinks are created in /etc/r

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 19.02.2014 00:52, schrieb Russ Allbery: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > >> They *HAVE* to be provided by the active init system. They are an >> impedance matching layer (aka stable API) used by maintainer scripts to >> interface with the active init system. > > If you look at the exi

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 18.02.2014 19:18, schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud: > Le mercredi, 19 février 2014, 00.56:07 Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> On 02/18/2014 11:10 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:55:32PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Once I consider OpenRC ready for it, would it be ok to jus

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 19 February 2014 11:22, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:37:08PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> > > [0] Can we haz a release name? >> >

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:37:08PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > [0] Can we haz a release name? > > > > > > > Sure. It's Debian 8.0, "zurg". [0] > > >

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 06:31:12PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > [0] Can we haz a release name? > > > > Sure. It's Debian 8.0, "zurg". [0] > > Neil > [0] Note: may be a lie. Umm, Debian 9.0? -- "If you're not careful, t

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thomas Goirand: > > [0] Can we haz a release name? > > It's been years that I've been asking that we have the release name a > way sooner. Ideally, one release earlier, so that we can prepare for the > new name soon enough (and not fix things during the freeze). But the > release team doesn't

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 02/19/2014 08:05 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> There are some advantages to providing only one version with knowledge >>> of all of the init systems given that we're supporting init system >>> switching, and ther

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, I'm replying to everyone in a single mail, I hope that's fine. I'm therefore a bit repeating myself, sorry for that. On 02/19/2014 02:18 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 19 février 2014, 00.56:07 Thomas Goirand a écrit : >> On 02/18/2014 11:10 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Apparently sysvinit scripts must be retained anyway for a smooth migration to jessie; also for easy backporting of jessie packages to wheezy, and maybe other reasons. Non-Linux ports are likely to use those SysV init scripts, though we might invoke them from something other than sysvinit. I know

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > > They *HAVE* to be provided by the active init system. They are an > > impedance matching layer (aka stable API) used by maintainer scripts to > > interface with the active init system. > > If you look at the exist

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > They *HAVE* to be provided by the active init system. They are an > impedance matching layer (aka stable API) used by maintainer scripts to > interface with the active init system. If you look at the existing implementation, you'll find that the version pro

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > Once I consider OpenRC ready for it, would it be ok to just replace > > sysv-rc by OpenRC, and transform sysv-rc into a transitional package? > > No, update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d still need to be provided by something. They *HAVE* to be provided by t

[OT]: zurg (was Re: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-18 Thread gustavo panizzo
On 02/18/2014 03:31 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> [0] Can we haz a release name? >> > Sure. It's Debian 8.0, "zurg". [0] finally one of the 'bad' guys! [*] as a release, sid don't apply > > Neil > [0] Note: may be a lie. --

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 01:11:21AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Actually, thinking about it a 2nd time, I think there would be a major > drawback in delaying to Jessie +1. If we decide that sysv-rc goes away, > then starting at the Jessie release, we don't have to care anymore about > LSB header

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