Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 20:37:06 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > What you actually want here is to use architecture wildcards, as in: > > > > libasound2-dev [linux-any] > > > > this is documented in dpkg-architecture(1), and has been supported since > > dpkg 1.13.13. debhe

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Guillem Jover writes: > What you actually want here is to use architecture wildcards, as in: > > libasound2-dev [linux-any] > > this is documented in dpkg-architecture(1), and has been supported since > dpkg 1.13.13. debhelper also supports this since 5.0.36. Currently the > only missing pi

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 09:30:48 +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Introduction of the new fields > == > > - Build-Recommends would list packages that are basically available in > the Debian archive, but are not available on all architectures or for > all kernels. [...

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-10 Thread Manuel Prinz
Hi Fabian! Am Dienstag, den 10.02.2009, 13:25 +0100 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: > Steve Langasek schrieb: > > This is a very bad idea. It interferes with reproducibility of binary > > builds, which is a very important property of Debian packages. Packages > > must *not* build differently based on

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:25:53 +0100 Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Steve Langasek schrieb: > > This is a very bad idea. It interferes with reproducibility of binary > > builds, which is a very important property of Debian packages. Packages > > must *not* build differently based on opportunistic disc

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-10 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Steve Langasek schrieb: This is a very bad idea. It interferes with reproducibility of binary builds, which is a very important property of Debian packages. Packages must *not* build differently based on opportunistic discovery of build-dependencies on the system - it's a bug for any package to

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:30:48AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath a écrit : > Dear -devel, > > I'd like to suggest the introduction of two new control fields to the > source stanza of debian/control, namely Build-Recommends and > Build-Suggests. Dear Fabian, this is a very intersting proposal that would

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 09/02/09 at 01:13 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 09 Feb 2009, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > - Build-Recommends would list packages that are basically available > > in the Debian archive, but are not available on all architectures or > > for all kernels. > > Unfortunatly, making missing bui

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 01:13:24AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Why have I added libfaad-dev to the Build-Recommends? Because in > > Ubuntu ffmpeg-debian is in the main section, while faad2 is not. So > > in order to merge ffmpeg-debian to Ubuntu, the maintainer has to > > manually remove this B

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:30:48AM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Dear -devel, > I'd like to suggest the introduction of two new control fields to the > source stanza of debian/control, namely Build-Recommends and > Build-Suggests. This is a very bad idea. It interferes with reproducibility of

Re: Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > - Build-Recommends would list packages that are basically available > in the Debian archive, but are not available on all architectures or > for all kernels. Unfortunatly, making missing build-dependencies a non-fatal error causes builds to be non-det

Proposal of two new control fields: Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests [long reading]

2009-02-09 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Dear -devel, I'd like to suggest the introduction of two new control fields to the source stanza of debian/control, namely Build-Recommends and Build-Suggests. Introduction of the new fields == - Build-Recommends would list packages that are basically available in t