Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:12:29 + (UTC), Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > 23-09-2007, Manoj Srivastava: [] It doesn't catch files created by Maintainer scripts? >> >>> This is the design flaw in those scripts (even in whole package >>> management). >> >> I am not sure you have made

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Ken Spath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Proposal regarding future packaging: > > Add an additional manual page to new/future/updated packages that is > the same as the package name. IF and only IF there would NOT be a > conflict with an existant necessary manual p

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-23 Thread Oleg Verych
23-09-2007, Manoj Srivastava: [] >>> It doesn't catch files created by Maintainer scripts? > >> This is the design flaw in those scripts (even in whole package >> management). > > I am not sure you have made your case here. > > Currently, using maintainer scripts, it is indeed possi

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:25:23 + (UTC), Oleg Verych (Gmane) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: [] >>> > I like this too. Finding what a package has just installed is one >>> > of the biggest holes in Debian right now, IMO. I have to use dpkg >>> > -L to figure this out, and th

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:46:26 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat September 22 2007 12:16:18 am Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: >> 21-09-2007, Bruce Sass: >> > On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: >> >> 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: >> >> > I'm hoping the dpkg "tri

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat September 22 2007 12:16:18 am Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: > 21-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > > On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: > >> 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > >> > I'm hoping the dpkg "triggers" functionality Ian Jackson has > >> > been working on will help solve that

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-21 Thread Oleg Verych (Gmane)
21-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: >> 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: >> > I'm hoping the dpkg "triggers" functionality Ian Jackson has been >> > working on will help solve that wart though. >> >> How exactly? > > Exactly? I don't know. I haven't follo

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: > 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > > I'm hoping the dpkg "triggers" functionality Ian Jackson has been > > working on will help solve that wart though. > > How exactly? Exactly? I don't know. I haven't followed what is happening close enoug

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-20 Thread Oleg Verych (Gmane)
19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: [] >> > I like this too. Finding what a package has just installed is one >> > of the biggest holes in Debian right now, IMO. I have to use dpkg >> > -L to figure this out, and that's just too crude to be a real >> > solution. >> >> Too crude? That's a simple command, easil

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-20 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Goerzen wrote: [...] > Too crude? That's a simple command, easily found in a relevant manpage. In > true Unix fashion, its output can be easily piped to other commands. What's > crude about it? Well, it doesn't actually tell me what I need t

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed September 19 2007 04:53:10 pm John Goerzen wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2007 5:43:03 pm David Given wrote: > > John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > [...] > > > > > I like this idea, especially if there were a short description > > > about each program and relevent configuration files. > > >

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread John Goerzen
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 5:43:03 pm David Given wrote: > John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > [...] > > > I like this idea, especially if there were a short description about > > each program and relevent configuration files. > > I like this too. Finding what a package has just installed is one of t

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John H. Robinson, IV wrote: [...] > I like this idea, especially if there were a short description about each > program and relevent configuration files. I like this too. Finding what a package has just installed is one of the biggest holes in Debian

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Ken Spath wrote: >> Proposal regarding future packaging: >> >> Add an additional manual page to new/future/updated packages that is >> the same as the package name. IF and only IF there would NOT be a >> conflict with an existant nece

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Ken Spath wrote: > Proposal regarding future packaging: > > Add an additional manual page to new/future/updated packages that is > the same as the package name. IF and only IF there would NOT be a > conflict with an existant necessary manual page AND IF there is no > binary in

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-19 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:27:12 +0200 Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Ken Spath: > > If after I install casu or netdiag, I type man casu or man netdiag > > there is nothing. > > > > whereis / find / apt-cache search / apt-file search were necessary

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Ken Spath: > If after I install casu or netdiag, I type man casu or man netdiag > there is nothing. > > whereis / find / apt-cache search / apt-file search were necessary > > How many current debian users and users of forked distributions know > of apt-file o

Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-18 Thread Ken Spath
Proposal regarding future packaging: Add an additional manual page to new/future/updated packages that is the same as the package name. IF and only IF there would NOT be a conflict with an existant necessary manual page AND IF there is no binary in a package that is the same as the package name