Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, On Tuesday 12 April 2011 01.22:55 Scott Kitterman wrote: The notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the near term is anything other than crazy talk is, well, crazy. Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:46, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: Python2.6 as default)

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Adrian von Bidder, 2011-04-13] Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be a Python 3.

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the near term is anything other

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The notion that /usr/bin/python

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something like: python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2 instead (or convert them to

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something like: python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can fall back on python2. Well there needs to be at least one where /usr/bin/python becomes python3 alerting users to the change and giving them the python2 fallback, just so

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We also have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). The only meaningful change that would make python3 the 'default python' is if we pointed

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We also have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). The only meaningful change that would make python3 the

Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
I noticed that this is still listed at http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals. Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Sure. Please feel free to fix that. Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Gilbert
Scott Kitterman wrote: I noticed that this is still listed at http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals. Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Is it out of the question to target python3.x as the

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:33:01 PM Michael Gilbert wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: I noticed that this is still listed at http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals. Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:26:12 PM Andreas Barth wrote: * Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Sure. Please feel free to fix that.

Re: Python2.6 as default

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Checca
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:49:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:26:12 PM Andreas Barth wrote: * Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be python2.7 as