Lars Wirzenius dixit:
No other browser is available on the Amiga they're using as their only
computer, either.
lynx-cur, w3m and links2 are known-usable on Debian/m68k,
and I’m working on iceweasel currently (already submitted
one patch, another one coming soon) and webkit (also FTBFS,
will
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:20:24 +0200
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
...
This would be a case where I think liberal NMUing
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 08:24 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:20:24 +0200
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:52:41 +0200
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 08:24 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
Look at the list of RC bugs and see if you can come up with anything
useful about the problem. There are enough of them, everyone should be
able to do
On Vi, 27 iul 12, 09:52:41, Svante Signell wrote:
OK, I'll try to help with Wheezy. Where can I find the complete list of
RC bugs?
You could start with rc-alert (in devscripts) and then continue with
http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
Hope this helps,
Andrei
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]] Michael Gilbert
True. Part of the problem is appropriate terminology. This is a case
of what I would call an undermaintained package. Even though the
maintainer is still around, and may be quite active elsewhere, this
package has not gotten any attention in 2 years (even though
]] Svante Signell
I have tried several times and I can give you a recent example, see
#610209 and especially #669368. I have tried to contribute, but to no
avail (at least in this case).
None of them are particularly relevant for the release, AFAICS? As for
packaging them in experimental,
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 15:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
I think this issue is very relevant to Wheezy. Why are there so many
outdated packages going into this release? The whole idea of unstable is
(to my understanding) to package the latest
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
the freeze!
Add to that unresponsive package maintainers, refusing to package new
Hello,
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 10:31:24 +0100, a écrit :
* The new release is requested by insistent Hurd porters,
I would just like to confirm that the Hurd porter team does *not*
back Svante's request for new releases. Even though we have already
explained him several times why in
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
the freeze!
Add to
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:28:34PM +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Please consider that he is speaking on his own, do not take him as the
Hurd porters. The Hurd porter team wants to avoid anything that would
delay the release.
I apologize for implying that the Hurd porter team would do that. It
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:46:40 +0100, a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:28:34PM +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Please consider that he is speaking on his own, do not take him as the
Hurd porters. The Hurd porter team wants to avoid anything that would
delay the release.
I
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:02:10AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
the freeze!
...
* The new
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 20:28 +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Hello,
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 10:31:24 +0100, a écrit :
* The new release is requested by insistent Hurd porters,
...
I would just like to confirm that the Hurd porter team does *not*
back Svante's request for new
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:20:23AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by
volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best
distributions, what about
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
I disagree.
Maybe my statement was overly general indeed. I certainly agree with
There is work to be done to make Debian attract more contributors.
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Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
Well there is experimental that could be used to package pre-releases
and new releases to make them suitable for unstable and testing _before_
the freeze!
Sure. But that doesn't magically happen; someone has to actually do it.
Add to that
+++ Svante Signell [2012-07-26 14:45 +0200]:
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:31 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
There are a ton of reasons why Debian may have an older version of
an upstream release. For example, and I hasten to point out that
the following list is by no means exhaustive, and not
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:24 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Svante Signell wrote:
I can give a few examples of outdated packages having non-responsive
maintainers, wine is one of them. See the wishlist bugs! Finally a set
of NMUs solved that problem.
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:24 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
If a you see an out-of-date package, please volunteer your time to help
fix it. If you're not a DD, you can do the work and send a message to
debian-mentors.
I have tried several times
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
If a you see an out-of-date package, please volunteer your time to
help fix it. If you're not a DD, you can do the work and send a
message to debian-mentors.
I have tried several times and I can give you a recent example, see
#610209
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
I have tried several times and I can give you a recent example, see
#610209 and especially #669368. I have tried to contribute, but to no
avail (at least in this case).
While it's nice that
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
While it's nice that you've prepared a package for the new mlocate
upstream version, getting it done after the freeze is simply far too
late. Also, for packages that haven't been updated in a very long time
(two years in this case), a much
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
In this case, the maintainer is definitely not MIA. Prompted by this
thread, I looked over the open bugs (and took the liberty of tagging a
couple since I was looking them over anyway), and they
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
...
This would be a case where I think liberal NMUing would certainly be
appropriate (of course prior to the freeze).
Yeah, I guess that
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
Yeah, I guess that makes sense, *if* the person doing the NMU then owns
any bugs they introduce and of course doesn't do anything drastic like
rewriting the build system. And provides plenty of warning.
Please, what can I do being a
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Yeah, I guess that makes sense, *if* the person doing the NMU then owns
any bugs they introduce and of course doesn't do anything drastic like
rewriting the build system. And provides
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
True. Part of the problem is appropriate terminology. This is a case
of what I would call an undermaintained package. Even though the
maintainer is still around, and may be quite active elsewhere, this
package has not gotten any attention
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes:
If one sees a package that has not been uploaded in 2 years (or 6 months
or however long), I think we should make it so that they can feel free
to liberal NMU it with a 10-day delay. If the maintainer was really
planning to hold the package back
I _knew_ Apple was behind this somehow!
-miles
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On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:47 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Adding debian-devel to the recipients. I think the question belongs
there.
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 21:39 +, Bart Martens wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:25:47PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 00:20 +0300,
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
I think this issue is very relevant to Wheezy. Why are there so many
outdated packages going into this release? The whole idea of unstable is
(to my understanding) to package the latest upstream releases, and get
the bugs squeezed out, right?
Hello,
Now when Wheezy is about to be released I would like to raise an issue.
How come that there are still so many outdated packages becoming part
of Wheezy. Some package maintainers are very responsive in upgrading to
new upstream releases, others are having packages several years old.
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by
volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best
distributions, what about raising the bar a little higher?
The only way you can really improve the
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 00:20 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by
volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best
distributions, what about raising the
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
Now when Wheezy is about to be released I would like to raise an issue.
How come that there are still so many outdated packages becoming part
of Wheezy. Some package maintainers are very responsive in upgrading to
new upstream releases,
Adding debian-devel to the recipients. I think the question belongs
there.
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 21:39 +, Bart Martens wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:25:47PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 00:20 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Svante Signell
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