Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-10 Thread Ian Jackson
martin f krafft writes ("Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs"): > Of course I can ensure that, and that's what I had a while ago: for > each of my road-warriors (rw.madduck.net; 19 of them; no, not all > laptops; long story), I had a separate pair of MX RRs. > > I sough

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.10.1059 +0100]: > In particular, I have seen MTAs which would (taking your situation as > a concrete example, and when relaying mail eg as a smarthost), after > receiving a mail with >RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > would look lapse.madduck.net

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't believe DNS (or SMTP for that matter) hasn't moved along in > decades... at least not since people started to understand that data > redundancy (not caching!) is a bad thing. Yeah, both DNS and SMTP basically froze in stone a while back, and e

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.10.0024 +0100]: > The only thing RFC 821 cares about is what hostnames you use in > MAIL FROM and RCPT TO. If you can ensure that your mail setup > uses the canonical name rather than the alias in the RHS of > addresses in MAIL FROM, that will

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.09.2243 +0100]: >> Note, though, that STD-10 is a Standard whereas RFC 2821 is still >> only a Proposed Standard. IIRC, formally the obsolete only fully >> applies once RFC 2821 reaches the same le

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.09.2243 +0100]: > Note, though, that STD-10 is a Standard whereas RFC 2821 is still > only a Proposed Standard. IIRC, formally the obsolete only fully > applies once RFC 2821 reaches the same level in the standards > process. Does that mean I

Re: RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs

2007-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RFC 2821 obsoletes STD-10, and says: > 3.6 Domains >Only resolvable, fully-qualified, domain names (FQDNs) are permitted >when domain names are used in SMTP. In other words, names that can >be resolved to MX RRs or A RRs (as discussed in

RFC 2?821 and CNAMEs (was: seeking: Ian Jackson)

2007-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
Thanks, Ian, for your reply. I don't quite agree with it though. also sprach Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.09.2102 +0100]: > The prevailing IETF standard for mail transmission over the Internet > is STD-10 (RFC821), which says: RFC 2821 obsoletes STD-10, and says: 3.6 Domains Only