Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-05-30 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Interesting matter ! Multiarch :-) I have experienced the same treatment from binutils maintainer, he did not answer to my mails or bug reports (393841,432772). Tired of this and as it is an upstream matter i sent a patch upstream and it got accepted. For my surprise, it is very close to

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:49:07 +0200, Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a refusal by the maintainer? Acticaly refusing things is not part of Mr. Troup's operations. He rather sits on such issues for years until they solve

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:06:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after we released lenny without multiarch. That's

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-21 Thread Luk Claes
Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:06:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: If you do want to wait for permission/refusal, you might find you never get a reply and end up waiting

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Why did I guess the name of binutils' maintainer correctly _before_ looking into the PTS? You're not alone. I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after we released lenny without multiarch. That's indeed the way the maintainer seems to work, and he keeps sitting on

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a refusal by the maintainer? Hello, It reminds me when I had to deal with a DD who thought he orphaned a package, but did not. It lead to a situation where a few

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:24:09 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This thread is just their latest, last-ditch

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This thread is just their latest, last-ditch effort since

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080415 21:57]: Now I suppose sparc and others might still like it if they have performance advantages of 32bit code over 64bit code, in which case keeping 64bit for only those programs where the extra address space is worth it would be great. I guess most

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 10:01:53 16.04.2008 UTC+02 when Goswin von Brederlow did gyre and gimble: GvB Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GvB - 13 month from initial report to raising a minor issue that has no GvB negative effects on the functionality GvB - 4 days to fix the issue GvB - 9 month

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080415 21:57]: Now I suppose sparc and others might still like it if they have performance advantages of 32bit code over 64bit code, in which case keeping 64bit for only those programs where the extra address

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This thread is just their

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:48:26 +0200: NMU attempt gets vetoed Nope, this is only a patch with a mail subject 'Patch for pending NMU of binutils' The BTS doesn't show it but it was vetoed. Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:01:53 +0200: 2.

RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I would like to suggest a new release goal and hope that some DDs will advocate it. This one is actualy quite trivial but some convincing seems to be neccessary to get it done: # Multiarch capable toolchain Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include files in the multiarch locations. Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369064 State: All done except for binutils. Patch exists.

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include files in the multiarch locations. Bug-Url:

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include files in the multiarch locations. Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369064 State: All

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to suggest a new release goal The release goal list is frozen. We will only drop goals, not add new ones. Marc -- Fachbegriffe der Informatik - Einfach erklärt 287: Palestinänsertipper 1 Anschlag pro Minute. (Bodo Eggert)

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and include files in the multiarch

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Ove Kaaven
Andreas Barth skrev: * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: I suspect by the time a fully working multiarch is done, x86 won't need it anymore because everything will be fully 64bit. :) As Wine maintainer, I'd disagree with that. People, we want to release soon. Anyone is