Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-16 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Ian Jackson | 2010-09-15 11:56:49 [+0100]: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org wrote: I'd say they're serious bugs if packages in the archive suffer from the misbuild, and normal ones if not. I agree. Okay. In that case I open this weekend bugs against the packages I identified [0] with

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sebastian Andrzej Siewior sebast...@breakpoint.cc [100914 13:45]: Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the policy says clean build environment and having package X intalled is no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). A package more installed

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernhard R. Link writes (Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed): Packages not building in a real environment is a serious problem for our infrastructure. Having some extremely special build environment for your software betrays one of the most important principles of free

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Peter Samuelson | 2010-09-14 16:19:54 [-0500]: [Sebastian Andrzej Siewior] Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the policy says clean build environment and having package X intalled is no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). Where does

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes (Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed): Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the policy says clean build environment and having package X intalled is no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk [100915 15:54]: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes (Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed): Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the policy says clean build environment and having package X

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org, 2010-09-15, 17:05: As this is not really a new problem and easy to check for, I'm more surprised that is not yet catched by lintian. It is: package-contains-info-dir-file. And it's even on ftp-master's autoreject list. -- Jakub Wilk signature.asc

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Bernhard R. Link | 2010-09-15 17:05:05 [+0200]: Or is there no lintian run for buildd (i.e. unsourcefull) uploads yet? [0] says Those automated rejects will only be done on sourceful uploads to unstable and experimental. So I would say no, there isn't. [0]

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: Hello, I just built docbook2x and gettext and both contained the file mentioned in subject. install-info created dir which got gzip later in the build process. The strance thing is the almost none of the buildds ship

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior sebast...@breakpoint.cc (14/09/2010): So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]: install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is not possible that it was installed at some point. Maybe it got removed in the meantime. If you look at [0] you see dir.gz. If you look at build log from himalia1[1] and grep for

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:10:01 [+0200]: Hi, Hi, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior sebast...@breakpoint.cc (14/09/2010): So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed??? This is true.

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior sebast...@breakpoint.cc (14/09/2010): packages really ought to build if that package is installed… This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this file. Sorry, I should have been more explicit: build *properly*, i.e. do what's needed to avoid

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:53:20 [+0200]: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior sebast...@breakpoint.cc (14/09/2010): packages really ought to build if that package is installed??? This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this file. Sorry, I should have been more explicit:

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:11:14PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: * Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]: install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is not possible that it was installed at some point. Oops my fault. I wanted to say not impossible.

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org, 2010-09-14, 12:00: So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed… Should these kind of bugs (FTBFS or producing broken packages in non-clean environment)

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 14:55:33 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org, 2010-09-14, 12:00: So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed… Should these kind of bugs

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sebastian Andrzej Siewior] Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the policy says clean build environment and having package X intalled is no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). Where does the policy say that? I can't find anything that even