Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE

2025-09-17 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 08/09/25 4:04 pm, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 11:57:04AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> bluca is neither willing nor capable of that and must therefore be >> removed as a maintainer > > The first thing is to go ahead and step up to offer co-maintaining > systemd. bluca has stated

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE

2025-09-09 Thread Bjørn Mork
Bjørn Mork writes: > Further details are found in https://bugs.debian.org/1112535 And there I see that the maintainer of the systemd package in his utlimate wisdom has decided to downgrade this bug to "minor", stating that There was absolutely no need to disturb RT and waste your time, as you

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE

2025-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 08, Nilesh Patra wrote: This leaves me a bit confused: Is the Uploaders entry in d/control reflecting the bus factor of this package accurately? I am on the list and on stand-by. Until required, I will just keep quiet. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE

2025-09-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 11:57:04AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: bluca is neither willing nor capable of that and must therefore be removed as a maintainer The first thing is to go ahead and step up to offer co-maintaining systemd. bluca has stated multiple times that he is overworked. His erratic

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE (was: Re: Updated Debian 13: 13.1 released)

2025-09-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Debian chose systemd, Devuan chose InitV. so you as user can choose whatever you want, I wouldn't say Devuan chose SysV but Devuan does let me choose runit during the netiso install and thankfully Debian has the init freedom project. I wouldn't call mentioning observations a rant. It doesn't

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE (was: Re: Updated Debian 13: 13.1 released)

2025-09-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 07/09/2025 15:20, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2025 at 12:37:10PM -, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Is systemd-networkd the default on Debian? Sadly, no. It is the best network management tool for configuration managed servers I have seen in 25 People said that about systemd which wasn't

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE (was: Re: Updated Debian 13: 13.1 released)

2025-09-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Sep 07, 2025 at 12:37:10PM -, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Is systemd-networkd the default on Debian? Sadly, no. It is the best network management tool for configuration managed servers I have seen in 25 years of Linux experiences. It is totally useable since bookworm and has the best IP

Re: BROKEN! DO NOT UPGRADE (was: Re: Updated Debian 13: 13.1 released)

2025-09-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
>257.8-1~deb13u1. The implications should be obvious. Fixing a system without network is hard. If the broken system is remote then it might even be impossible. And discovering that this bug has been known for a week and still released today makes me sad Is systemd-networkd the default on Deb