Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: The reason why there is a problem with an http submission interface is that suddenly every idiot will think oh I must write

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Fernando Lemos fernando...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Patrick Strasser patrick.stras...@tugraz.at wrote: [...] Why not use some simple non-HTTP-protocol on port 80? That tends to break transparent proxying. If port 80 is the only one you have open, chances are

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: The reason why there is a problem with an http submission interface is that suddenly every idiot will think oh I must write a cool ui for this. But with the tunneling suggested

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Russell Coker
There are plenty of cgi-bin scripts that send email via a web interface. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to install one of them on a web server for the purpose of forwarding Debian bug reports. So really anyone who is good at running web servers can setup a HTTP submission method if

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Russell Coker writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): Would someone who wants to write a HTTP client bug reporting tool really be prevented because they have to setup their own server too? That would just result in their mail server being blocked by DSA or owner@bugs. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Ian Jackson am 2011-05-25 13:46: I wrote: Brian May writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http submission

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-26 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Patrick Strasser patrick.stras...@tugraz.at wrote: [...] Why not use some simple non-HTTP-protocol on port 80? That tends to break transparent proxying. If port 80 is the only one you have open, chances are you're behind a transparent proxy as well. Regards,

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian May writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http submission interface to the BTS, provided that everyone

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: Brian May writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http submission interface to the BTS, provided

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Brian May writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): [ explanation of how reportbug is broken right now ] We could solve this if we can avoid the slippery slope problem. Or to put it another way, I would have no objection to an http

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Bjørn Mork
Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au writes: Some don't even have Internet access. So, how do you propose reportbug should handle those? Send a fax? Seriously, what problem do you have that isn't solved by reportbug --offline --output=foo ? Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): So everyone is allowed to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp. But only reportbug is allowed to use http? That seems a bit stupid. No-one _wants_ to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp, and doing so as a simple serverless web

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Getting good bug reports): So everyone is allowed to write a frontend to report bugs via smtp. But only reportbug is allowed to use http? That seems a bit stupid. No-one _wants_ to write a frontend to report

Re: Getting good bug reports

2011-05-24 Thread Brian May
On 25 May 2011 05:25, Patrick Strasser patrick.stras...@tugraz.at wrote: Point 3). Still it's too hard for a real novice which would like to help to get a bug report not at all out. The starting suggestion for this thread was to add an HTTP based transport path to get around the MTA thing. In