Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Svante Signell contributed: To answer the original poster's own question, what can he do? He can stop writing these emails and start writing code (a fork of systemd supporting kFreeBSD, to be specific) I don't think forking systemd is a good choice, that

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ pruning the recipient list a lot ] On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 03:21:15PM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: I personally dislike systemd on a few technical and few social grounds, but I respect the decision of Debian TC and will do what I can to make systemd in Debian be the bast it can be and make

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 16/02/14 09:54, ChaosEsque Team wrote: Isn't it great that we have to have this discussion about forking debian because within an oligarchic 8 man planning committee, which was split 50/50 for and against systemd, the chairman happened to be a systemd fan and abused his position to gain a

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-16 Thread redlynx
The alternative is allready here. It's called SysV. Nothing needs to be done. It is a rock on which to build. Not a shifting sands. I must say, I agree with the man of the New Testament on this particular sort of issue. Build your house on rock, not on sand. The alternative is allready in all of

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-16 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
On 16 February 2014 14:34, redl...@hush.com wrote: The alternative is allready here. It's called SysV. Nothing needs to be done. It is a rock on which to build. Not a shifting sands. If you insist on alegories, then the choice now stands between building on a solitary rock in the middle of a

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote: The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd. Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectly reasonable reason for a ban, regardless of

Re: Honestly, fork systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 19:05 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote: The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd. Not respecting the communication culture of the project